Scheduling types in PM order

Dear All,
Can Anybody explain different types of Scheduling types which are used in sap pm orders?And what are its affects on the order?
1) Forwards
2)Backwards
3)only capacity requirements
4)current date
5)Forwards in time
6)Backward in time.
Regards,
Bhanu

Hi,
Forward scheduling
When you set this indicator, the system schedules:
Orders forwards, based on the basic start date
Collective orders forwards, based on the specified outline start date
Networks forwards, based on the specified basic start date, and then backwards, based on the scheduled finish date or on the specified basic finish date
Backward scheduling
If you set this indicator the system schedules
orders backwards starting from the basic finish date
collective orders backwards starting from the framework finish date,
networks backwards starting from the specified basic finish date, then forwards starting from the scheduled start date or the basic start date specified.
Only calculate capacity requirements
Specifies that the system only calculates capacity requirements.
Use
In production orders, the system calculates the scheduled start and finish of the order by deducting the float before and after production from the basic order dates (order start and order finish). The calculated dates are written into all operations in the order.
In networks, the system writes the basic dates from the network header into all activities in the network.
If you use this scheduling type, the dates of all the operations/ activities are identical.
The capacity requirements are distributed across the period between the scheduled start and the scheduled finish.
Costing calculates no capacity requirements when this scheduling type is used.
Schedule from current date
If you set this indicator the system schedules
orders und collective orders forward, starting at today's date
networks backwards, starting at the basic finish date, and then forwards, starting at today's date.
Foward/Backwards in time:
Basic dates with time of day
You use this indicator to determine for process orders and production orders that when you enter the basic dates, you can also enter the time.

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Hi Venkat,
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http://scn.sap.com/thread/1535577
http://scn.sap.com/thread/1554548
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Hi,
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Hi,
Please explain the difference between the scheduling types 'Backwards' & 'Backwards in time'.
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Scheduled finished    2009/08/06   17:00:00
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Hi,
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Schedule line in sale order will flow based on the settings you maintain in VOV5.
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Hi
What is scheduling type forward in time and backward in time?
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Hi,
In simple words:
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Forward Scheduling
If you have specified forward scheduling in the network header as the schedule type, you must also specify the basic start date of the network.
The system starts from the basic start date and schedules forward in time to calculate the earliest dates of the activities and the scheduled finish first. Then it calculates the latest dates of activities and the scheduled start of the network.
If you have also specified a basic finish date in addition to the basic start date in the network header, the system uses the basic finish date as the starting point for backward scheduling.
Backward Scheduling
If you have specified backward scheduling as the scheduling type in the network header, you must enter the basic finish date of the network.
The system starts from the basic finish date and schedules backward in time to calculate the latest dates of activities and the scheduled start. Then it calculates the earliest dates of activities and the scheduled finish of the network.
If you also enter a basic finish date in addition to the basic start date in the network header, the system uses the basic start date as the starting point for forward scheduling.
Current Date Scheduling
With scheduling to current date, you can see whether the network can be completed by a certain date. In this method, the system uses the basic finish dates and schedules the network backwards and then starting with the current date, schedules forwards.
You can use the floats in the activities to determine how many days you still have or are short to make the finish date.
Only Capacity Requirements
If you specify capacity requirements only as the scheduling type in the network header, the system copies the basic dates from the network header into the scheduled dates and into the earliest and latest dates of all activities.
When you have the system only calculate capacity requirements in scheduling,
          o Time constraints of the activities are taken into consideration
          o Relationships are ignored.
Special Function: Today Scheduling
"Today" scheduling is a special function in scheduling. In Customizing for the Project System, you can specify the number the days that the scheduled start may be in the past. If the scheduled start of a network is further back in the past than allowed, the system at first attempts to reduce the duration. If this is not sufficient, the system automatically schedules forward starting with todayu2019s date.
It is possible to have negative float times with today scheduling.
The backwards scheduling calculates a scheduled start that is in the past despite maximum reduction. Forward scheduling then calculates the scheduled finish, starting at todayu2019s date and using maximum reduction.
Thanks
HK

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Hello,
I think Abdul has answered your second question. As far as your first question goes, kindly note that the three fields in the Additional data tab serve a specific purpose:
1) Project definition field is used only for reporting and is something that you will not change.
2) The WBS field is derived from the network activity to which the PM order is being linked. Please note that this field is used to determine the special stock requirement i.e. the WBS from which the PM order will request reservation of goods provided the special stock indicator is used (this WBS can be changed for example a situation where you have done all procurement of the project on a central WBS as project stock and would like to re-direct all PM order reservations to this single WBS).
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