SCOM 2007 R2 vs Windows 8.1 client Management Pack
Hello
We are running rollout of replacing XP to Windows 8.1 on clients monitored by SCOM 2007 R2.
Clients are discovered but we miss a Win8.1 Client Management Pack to discover and monitor basic parameters as we used to do for WinXP clients.
As far as I know there is no Win8.1 Client MP released yet but I found a workaround (custom MP) which allows to discover Win8.1 clients when Windows 8 Client MP is imported. (http://blogs.technet.com/b/kevinholman/archive/2014/04/01/windows-8-client-os-mp-doesn-t-discover-windows-8-1.aspx)
The problem is that Windows 8 Client MP is designed for SCOM 2012.
Do you know if it is possible to import the MP above to SCOM 2007 R2 without any consequences?
What is the recommendation for the way forward? Do you think upgrade to SCOM 2012 is a must?
Regards,
Arkadiusz
Hi Arkadiusz:
The download page for the Windows 8 client management pack does accurately indicate SCOM 2012 is the platform.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/confirmation.aspx?id=38434
The Windows 8 Client Monitoring and Aggregate management packs will not import into SCOM 2007 R2. You do need to upgrade your management group to SCOM 2012 or SCOM 2012 R2 in order to use the Windows 8 client management pack.
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I realize this is an abstract question but at this point I don't know what I don't know so bear with me.
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