Scopes limited to a bounding box!

I've put in a wishform request ( https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?event=processform&name=wishform#wishprodlan g ) for something that would have a HUGE effect on the speed of my grading: being able to have the scopes limited to the data in a drawn bounding-box! I'd want it to be a key-boarded shortcut, but one you could set to "on" and just leave as you wanted to.
Think of how this would assist you in skin-tone corrections/controls, being able to at any moment draw a quick bounding-box and see where on the vector-scope your "skin" falls, both for rotational degree (hue) and saturation!
Think of the way this could work in checking for secondary corrections ... both in determining IF you need to do the work of making a secondary, and ... if so ... showing you where you need to start AND where you need to go.
Currently the only way to do this is to make a top-level primary layer, create a mask on it futzing around to make the mask fit exactly the area you need to "see" in the scope, set the layer for controlling the outside of the mask, and then "grade" the outer area to black.
You need to do all this anytime you want to restrict the scopes to one small section of the image. The control as I've suggested, only because I've learned it is something available in some other software and is slicker than SNOT to use ( ) ... well, it would be available INSTANTLY all the time. What a huge time-saver this would be for me.
Y'all are welcome to post this on to Adobe also ...
Neil

FWIW Neil
In my experience ..."skin tone" and any other is ultimately CC and graded to the "eye-ometer"
Key to subtleties and control is the use of Secondaries thru HSL qualifiers and masks.
Personally ..once I get into areas such as skin tone...its all eye and not a glance at a scope ...apart from the constant eye on Black and highlight levels.
I would like to see Adobe gain scope consistency across the apps. SG , PPRO and AEFX
I am not adverse to a "floating point scope" as an optional tool. ( Another scope).
If you can get a look at DVRack (Serious Magic) or Adobe On Location scopes... do so.

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I searched the forum before asking.... I'm not even sure how to ask this properly... I have imported several layers from a photoshop file. Many of the layers are in groups to give me some pre-comp options in AE. On import, I did NOT choose to retain the layer size (or whatever that third option is) — I brought the file in just preserving the layers themselves. The precomps (when placed inside my master comp) have a bounding box that is limited to JUST that PSD's group content. However, if I open the pre-comp itself, all of the layers bounding boxes are scaled/sized to the size of the comp (in this case, 640x960). This means that the smaller layer items (say, a hand) has it's anchor point in the middle of the comp and the handles are on the perimeter of the comp. SO, even though the hand layer is only 200x200px in total size, I've got all the negative space included in my bounding box.
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Okay... so, I had the import types reversed in my head. Importing as "Composition", will force the bounding box of every layer to fit the width/height of the comp itself. Importing with "Composition: Retain Layer Sizes" will actually crop the bounding box down to the layer's content.
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yuchangeai,
I am afraid you have come across the Live Rectangle bug which is limited to the MAC versions starting with 10.7 and 10.8, but not 10.9 (Mavericks).
So a switch to Mavericks with a reinstallation might be the way to solve it here and now.
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https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1587587

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Marcos,
I am afraid you have come across the Live Rectangle bug which is limited to the MAC versions starting with 10.7 and 10.8, but not 10.9 (Mavericks), see this thread linked to below.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1595973
So a switch to Mavericks with a reinstallation might be the way to solve it here and now.
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https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1587587

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kimoen,
In addition to what Larry said, the Adobe team are working on the Live Rectangle bug which is limited to the MAC versions starting with 10.7 and 10.8, but not 10.9 (Mavericks).
So a switch to Mavericks with a reinstallation might be the way to solve it here and now, if that is an option, in which case you should reinstall after upgrading the OS.
But you may get round it in a couple of ways while using your present OS.
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Bounding Boxes (Importing Photoshop to After Effects)

Hey, I'm sorry if this is a stupid question and it seems like (hopefully) it's a one click easy fix but here goes.
When I import Photoshop files into After Effects the bounding boxes around the orignal grouped layers are the size of the project itself. To clarify the pre-existing layer "groups" in Photoshop that were converted to "compositions" in After Effects upon importing, all have bounding boxes that extend out to the dimensions of the entire project. When I click into the composition the layers have bounding boxes that mold to the layer size. I need the group/composition bounding box to extend to only the dimensions of the subsequent layers not the entire project. When I was using After Effects CS6 it reduced the bouding box of my group/compositions to the minimalist possible extent automatically. Now that I've been forced over to After Effects CC (on account that I use creative cloud) the bounding boxes are no longer conforming to the groups in the same manner.
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Yeah this problem never got officially resolved. For some reason they changed this in CC version of After Effects but as you said it was never like that in previous versions (at least it wasn't in CS6).
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1) Go into your composition/group in After Effects and use the "Crop Region of Interest" function. This will readjust the bounding box to that composition but you'll need to resituate your composition so that it's in the right place as cropping the region of interest stupidly seems to moves it.
2) Create Null Objects and parent one of them to each moving composition. Situate all Null Object layers above your composition layers so each one is clickable
3) Create a special "group" in the Photoshop file you're working in and -copy- all of the layers in that Photoshop file into the new group that you just created. Merge all of the layers together that are meant to be a single moving object in After Effects. This will leave your original layers intact and when you import the PSD file into After Effects you'll have the merged layers you need that will automatically have appropriate bounding boxes.

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Hi,
Since updating to illustrator 18.1 today I have noticed that when creating an object using the rectangle or rounded rectangle tool I am no longer getting a bounding box.
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will show the bounding box, just not with the tool.
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David, others,
An update:
It seems that the Live Rectangle bug is limited to the MAC versions starting with 10.7 and 10.8, but not 10.9 (Mavericks), see this thread linked to below.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1595973
So a switch to Mavericks with a reinstallation might be the way to solve it here and now.
It is possible to Expand the Live Rectangles to get normal old fashioned rectangles.
A way round that is to create normal old fashioned rectangles, after running the free script created by Pawel, see this thread with download link:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1587587

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Robert,
There are a few more options.
As Larry said, the Live Rectangle bug is limited to the MAC versions starting with 10.7 and 10.8, but not 10.9 (Mavericks) or 10.10 (Yosemite). Hopefully, the bug will be fixed soon.
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https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1587587

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I could pre-crop the images in PS but then I loose the ease of changing them in Illustrator. I always try and do as much work as possible in Illustrator so I am able to undo or change things quickly, I am not a big fan of the finality of working with raster images.
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The middle handle on the rectangle is not there anymore when I select it with the black arrow (v) tool. Show bounding box and edges are both on. Where dd the middle anchor go??

haggyabeken,
I am afraid you have come across the Live Rectangle bug which is limited to the MAC versions starting with 10.7 and 10.8, but not 10.9 (Mavericks), see this thread linked to below.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1595973
So a switch to Mavericks with a reinstallation might be the way to solve it here and now.
To get round it in each case, it is possible to Expand the Live Rectangles to get normal old fashioned rectangles, or to Pathfinder>Unite, or to use the Scale Tool.
A more permanent way round that is to create normal old fashioned rectangles, after running the free script created by Pawel, see this thread with download link:
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1587587

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This has happened on the last few versions of firefox, as long as canvas has been supported. I see other people's screen shots from canvas tutorials, and the text always looks normal. On my system, any text put into a canvas element via context.fillText() will have a black bounding box for each letter, sized appropriately for the letter. If the text is black, of course you only see rectangles. If the text is a contrasting color, then you can read it, but it looks bizarre.

Thomas...same kind of crap here.
I used Custom Text - entered a sentence, hit return, entered another.
Set to 72 pt.
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And yes, these small thin white lines do print, so the problem is far more than merely academic.
Has anyone else ever experienced this issue, and if so, how did you solve the problem (assuming you did)?

Sorry about that, I apparently forgot to attach the file; have done so now.
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I don't know whether or not the press would have printed these artifacts, as you suggest, since no printer has been willing to execute a file that shows any anomaly in the proof process. I can't say that I blame them.
Hopefully you will see what I'm talking about and can recommend a solution, though I like your idea of simply giving them a properly executed file and then telling them to get a life. It hasn't worked so far, as I unfortunately deal with a lot of Neanderthals around here, but I suppose it's worth putting forth again the next time this issue arises. It will.
By the way, no print house of my choosing is this far behind the curve, if at all. These cavemen are always printers who have long-standing relationships with my clients, and for whatever reason (generally lowest cost I'm sure), the clients think they hung the moon. We, of course, no otherwise, but it does it profit a designer to tell his client he or she is crazy for using a printer who is a decade behind the technology curve.
We cowboy up and seek solutions, eh?

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Is there a way to tighten a text bounding box?

Hey all,
I've looked before but never found a definitive answer to this question:
Is there a way to tighten the text bounding box without converting it to outlines?
I work for a screen printer, and want to figure out a way to tighten the bounding box without changing the leading and without converting it to outlines in order to be able to edit said text. We deal with a lot of clients who send us names, that are often misspelled, and after an initial proof need to be corrected. Sometimes we need to center this text to an object.
Illustrator's bounding box, unlike that of Corel (which is our primary program, and won't open AI files) includes the leading below the type, so when you center it, it's not visually centered:
So I guess my real question is is there a way to get the text centered (as seen below) without converting the text to outlines, or messing with the leading, or is there a way to tighten the bounding box?
Thanks in advance!
-K

Combat and Dandreu,
You may use this silly way:
1) Tick Edit>Preferences>General>Use Preview Bounds;
2) Select the Type and Effect>Path>Outline Object.
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