Score Editor: long ledger lines

If anyone can tell me how to correct this I would be most grateful.
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This is an L8 problem. If I open an identical document in L7 I do not get these long lines
This is a snapshot of a PDF printed by the Score Editor to desk top. If I print the part direct from Logic 8 the same problem occurs

Hi Brett - the answer to this issue was originally given by Rohan Stevenson on Logic Pro Help. No one answered it here.
The long ledger lines are due to use of Third Party fonts. Look in Logic Preferences>Score Preferences and you will see a box which asks if you want to use 3rd Party fonts ( in my case Sonata was available). As soon as I unchecked this box, the problem disappeared.
Check out the original thread:
http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=32992&highlight=score+editor
All best
M S

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