Scrap confirmation in Co11n

Dear Gurus,
My prodn order qty is 100.In Co11n or in Co12 i am confirming 90 as yield and 10 as scrap.What is the impact in terms of costing and goods movement.My scenario is a press machine sequence.If 10 pcs are damged during press.the 10pcs will become a scrap material which i will sell to the the different customer in kgs.
say 1 fg cost 100rs
say 1 rm cost 10 rs.
operation 10: press1 : yield 90:scrap:10
operation 20: press1 : yield 90:
operation 30: press1 : yield 90:
operation 40: press1 : yield 90:
Please through some light on this issue.
Regards,
Guna
TCS
Edited by: Guna on Dec 8, 2008 12:38 PM

Hi Guna,
Once the Material is scrapped, it will not be having any value. The quantity can not be seen in the system.
System understands that you will throw the Material out.
Now as per your scenario, there is a scrap of 10PC at Opereation 10.
For the confirmation of Operation 10:
90 (Yield) + 10 (Scrap).
For the manufacture of 10 Scrap pieces you have consumed the components and activities will also be posted. (here the consumptions are taken care).
Now this material can be collected separately and transferred to scrap yard.
Now follow below procedure..
Create a MAterial for Scrap:
Material Type can be : NLAG or PDSO.
with Valuation Class: 9999.
With reference to this ask your FI consultant to configure the OBYC for this valuation colass.
Now the scrap sale:
Create Sales Order: VA01
Delivery                 : VL01N
Billing                    : VF01
Excise Invoice        : J1IIN.
For this Material there will not be any quantity shown in the SAP.
Still you can do the delivery for this as a Sales Process.
The revinue collected in this will be adjusted in the P&L.
It means The consumption and actvities will be capture when you do the Confirmation (CO11n) and the revenues against the scrap will be captured after scrap sale.
As you can not bifurcate different scraps, we generally maintain the scrap material as Metal Scrap and sell it.
Hope this explains the entire scrap process.
Regards,
Siva

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