Scroll arrows are gone

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4143623?start=0&tstart=0
I have submitted feedback. Or is there a way to see them that I am not aware of? You know how much of a PAIN it is to go up and down a Quicken 2007 document without the icons?

John Wolf wrote:
I do not understand why Apple took away such a useful feature, but perhaps its things lke this that keep them out of the business market.
This won't solve your problem, just an answer. They took away scroll arrows because of the shift in UI hardware over the past 10 years. The primary methods for scrolling, for most people on most apps, even without considering iOS at all, have moved from clicking scroll arrows and tapping arrow keys, to scroll mice (on both Windows and Mac) and trackpads on laptops. And trackpad-equipped laptops are now outselling desktops. Applications that have kept up should be coded so that they're just as easy to scroll with the new hardware as the old hardware.
I realize accounting is a special case because it's heavily keyboard-driven. And I use keyboard shortcuts a lot, including arrow keys, all the time. But on the whole (I don't have Quicken 2007) I haven't noticed the missing scroll arrows. I only miss them in applications that improperly support line-by-line scrolling with my scroll mouse.
As for the business market, Apple does not care. They don't market there, and their absence there doesn't seem to bother them one bit. The latest reports are that sales volumes of scroll-arrow-less iPads is steadily increasing inside corporations...despite Apple's complete lack of effort in selling into corporations.

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Alan,
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