Scrollable Frame causing viewer on iPad 1 to close

Hello,
I am about to launch my magazine on the iPad, just need to send the App for Apple's approval. Unfortunately I am facing the problem above when changing orientation on iPad 1, and I don't like the idea of launching a "buggy" product.
The scrollable frame that is causing the viewer to close is vertical and is 2517 px height.
Is there any size limit that I should keep when working with Scrollable Frames?
Thanks in advance.

You got a point here Bob!
My idea is to send the app with only a few (perfectly functional) articles for approval.
One other thing I can do is to not work on both orientations. I am using vertical and horizontal orientations to complement the content, on the vertical layout I have the main article and, in some cases, I use the horizontal to present photos as slideshows, scrollable frames...
But after your comment, I'll con tinue to try (harder) to overcome the problem.
Thanks.
Diego

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