Scrolling long documents

I have a book manuscript that has reached 542 pages. When I'm scrolling later pages (in the 400+ area), the preceding page will vanish in favor of the upcoming page. Instead of seeing the end of one, the margin, the little between-space, and then the next page, it's just an entire area of background gray and the beginning of the next page. The further down I am in the manuscript, the greater the lag.
I like Pages a lot, but is this one of those instances where its focus on page-layout shows its weakness with long documents of "pure" writing? I don't want to switch to Nisus or back to Word (shudder); this is the first book I've finished, and that's partly because Pages is so uncluttered.
Reducing the number of pages by shrinking the font and fiddling with spacing and margins reduces the effect; changing the view doesn't seem to. But I have to have it at 12-point Courier / double spaced for printing anyway, so I wish I could edit without having to change its formatting and reduce its number of pages. Maybe I need a sort of "draft" mode.

First, as a novelist myself, I think you're nuts to keep all 500 pages of an important work in a single document. Oh, wait, I do it too. Well, 300 pages, anyway. I didn't used to, not with Word.
Second, I do not think that 1 gig of RAM is "fairly" low.
Third, Nisus is a fine program, but one of the advantages for me of Pages is that it is compatible with Word's track changes, which my publisher used to send back edits.
Four, I'd look at other programs or extensions (or whatever they are called in OS X) that might be causing the scrolling problem with Pages.
Five, unless you're happy with Nisus....
Michael Blair
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john the link is broken
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