Scsi card for older xserve?

hi all,
We have a couple of G4 PowerMacs that we currently use for backup. However, to save space, we are considering finding a couple of older Xserves (of the G4 variety) to replace them, with the obvious advantage being rackability. I have been trying every turn of search phrases I can think of to determine what Ultra 160 Wide SCSI adapters would be compatible with such a machine, but alas I cannot seem to find it! Can anyone offer any suggestions? Many thanks in advance.

Just out of curiousity... Why bother? With 4 400GB drives, you can put 1.6TB of inexpensive ATA disk into each machine for just a couple hundred dollars. Last check, 1.2TB of SCSI disk is about $3,000.
I have two G4 Xserve 1Ghz machines that have been decomissioned. Send me a note if you're interested.

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Supported Operating Systems
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Macintosh OS 9.0
Macintosh OS 9.0.2
Macintosh OS 9.0.3
Macintosh OS 9.0.4
Macintosh OS 9.1
Macintosh OS 9.2.x
Mac OS X 10.1.x
Mac OS X 10.2.x
Mac OS X 10.3.x
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Mac OS X Server 10.2.x
Mac OS X Server 10.3.x
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System Requirements
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