SCSI G3 Beige Minitower & 10.2.8 problems

Hello All & I welcome myself to Discussions,
I have a Beige G3 with a 8.50 SCSI HD. I know about the under 8G partition does not apply here because of the SCSI drive. I read somewhere, that OS X does not play well with beige G3's. Any truth to this?
My problem is connecting to the Internet. I've run permissions several times,
reconfigured my network settings, but still no dice. Would resettings the VPRAM help this issue. Are there any other tricks I might try to resolve this problem. I have another computer hooked up to the same Internet connection through a Cisco Ethernet hub and it works fine.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
JerBear65

JerBear65,
Start with Mauro's comments about one connection at a time. The router will also make sure that you only get one bill from your ISP and not two. Bill's idea is worth a shot, too. We are asuming certain details so thanks for the updates.
You mentioned "The server "pop.ptld.qwest.net" can not be contacted on port 110." which makes me wonder if your hub is configured to treat the Qwest DSL modem as a peer. If it is, you will be billed for each computer it sees on your LAN. This is where the difference between a Hub, a switch and a router becomes very important. All it takes is one bill for a LAN party with 12 computers connected to the web and you could have purchased a router!
Proceed with your tests and check out some options here:
http://computing-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/switchvs.hub
and definitions here:
This article is about a computer networking device. For the kind of rotating cutting tool called wood router, see wood router.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router
and interesting Wifi reading here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifi
Jim

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