SCVMM 2012 R2 VM on SMB 3.0 file share cloning is not offloaded and painfully slow

I setup a test environment, it appears the SCVMM always use BITS to clone VM that was painfully slow
SCVMM1: SCVMM 2012 R2 with the latest windows update
VHOST1 and VHOST2: Hyper-V Host. Windows Server 2012 R2 with the latest update
SERVER1: Windows File server, with Windows Server 2012 R2 with the latest update. The storage is a single 512GB SSD.
All VMs are located at a file share on SERVER1, the share is managed by SCVMM1 also.
All computers have plenty of RAM (8G+) and modern processor. The individual I/O benchmark on SERVER1 is typical SSD speed.  Each VHOST has dedicated NIC for VM use. Each
server has two gigabit NICs on same switch for data.
The step to reproduce:
1. Create a Windows 7 x86 VM on VHOST1 and install OS on it.  The VM is placed on the SERVER1 file share.  It runs well. no problem, VM performance is good.
2. In SCVMM console, right clicks the VM and select "Create Clone", the deployment target is on the same SMB share as the source VM.  
Actual:  It appears SCVMM clone the VM files with BITS, it is painfully slow. All data travel through network. Estimated 30 minutes for 30GB file!
Expected result: SCVMM uses SMB 3.0 to make the copy. The source and destination are on the same SMB 3.0 share. The transfer of data should be offloaded by SERVER1, instead of reading all data then write it back cross network. (And from unknown reason the
BITS is even much slower than network file copy).
Did I miss anything? Any way to force SCVMM to do such offload copy?  Any help would be appreciated.

Hi acacac1,
>>Actual:  It appears SCVMM clone the VM files with BITS, it is painfully slow. All data travel through network. Estimated 30 minutes for 30GB file!
Did you try to disable BITS then clone the VM again for test ?
Any further information please feel free to let us know .
Best Regards,
Elton Ji
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