SD- conditions to be mapped to COPA value field data in BI

Hi Experts,
I have a req where in I have to map condition level Sales order data to some COPA value fields. Currently for one Sale order item there are multiple conditions that means multiple line items. But when I try to find the COPA value field for the same same (Sales order, Sales order item ) key I get only one line item.
This has to be done for BI integration, but needs to be done at the source system level.
So my questions are,
1) How can we get the condition level data from COPA? Is it possible to fetch the data at that granularity?
2) Is it possible to integrate SD & COPA data on condition level i.e. at Sales order, sales order item & condition level.

Hi,
In KEA0, Data structure tab click on pencil button (change view).
Then click on -> change
Now you will be able to select new value fields
Rememeber, after changing click on save, activate and then back button. system will ask for regeneration, click ok.
Regards
Raghu

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(We do not use Sales and Distrubution module in our company)
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