SD-Material determination and the ATP

Hi,
IssueNo:1
we are working with the material determination and the ATP .
1. we have created a reason for substiution in th ovrq as below
Reasn             ZATP
Description     Autom.mat.selection
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep.     X
Strategy
Outcome             B
Category
2.we have the material determination as below
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
In this we have the INT1_FRAM material marked for the mrp.
3.The above are the config and the master data ,
4.In the above setting the material is replaced as subitem and all the ATP is done correctly as per the checking group and the scope ofthe check
5.When we change the setting for the reason for substiution as below
Reasn             ZATP
Description     Autom.mat.selection
Entry
Warn
AvCh dep.     X
Strategy
Outcome
Category
Note: The change here is the Outcome is changed to blank
6.Now when we do the above configuration change ,the material is getting replaced and the avaialability check is happening but if there is no sufficient stock it is not going to the next material.
It stops at the first alternate itself.
example for this is :
****Materialdetermination master data:
Material entered :INT1_AUTOLITE
Alternate materials:
INT1_AUTOLITE
INT1_FRAM
Stock situation :
INT1_AUTOLITE :5000
INT1_FRAM     :5000
When i create a sales order for 7500 for INT1_AUTOLITE it is only confirming 5000 fro the item 10 as material INT1_AUTOLITE it is not going to the next material
This is the core issue we are facing currently.
IssueNo2:
we also find a strange thing.
we have a availabiity check indicator in the V_TVSU ( config table)
SUVFP-Substitution dependent on the availability check
This is not available as a entry option.
why is this so ???
can anyone give a good response.
Reg
satheeshkumar

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SAPCON SD wrote:
> Hi SAP Gurus
>
> We are using material determination with product selection. The process is that customer will send in one product in a sales order. At the time of doing ATP we have to look for about three or four possible alternatives and confirm that alternative which has the highest stock level depending on the ATP situation. We have configured material determination with SAP standard substitution reason0006 to take care of this. The problem with this is that this creates two line items in sales order as the item substituted is shown as a sub-item of the material entered. We do not want to have two line items in a sales order for this. Is there a way we can do material determination with product selection (Based on ATP) and have the item substituted replace the item entered in a sales order? In other words we do not want to see two line items in a sales order. The substitute item should simply replace the original item and the material entered could be stored in field VBAP-MATWA. I have gone through all the standard SAP documentation which clearly states that in order to material determination based on ATP we have to use outcome A or B both of which create a sub-item.
>
> I was wondering if there is any workaround or if there is any user exit in which we can replace the original item with the substituted item?? Any help or any direction will be highly appreciated.
>
> Another question is if we were to use APO for doing global/Rule based ATP is it possible to get rid of the double line items. We have also tried to use rule based ATP in APO and use product/location substitution in our sandbox system to see if we can get back only one line item. But even in that case we do get a sub item. Any help on this issue will be greatly appreciated. You can also send me an e-mail at [email protected].
>
> Thanks
>
> SDSAPCON
In the substitution reasons ...mark the OUTCOME as blank for this particular 0006. I am not sure for ATP
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Edited by: Sai on Mar 27, 2008 10:00 PM

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(reference)Material Determination - Critical Issue

Dear Friend.
Thank you for your help.
All the items become grey out after we create first delivery.
So i should be just click on item availabilty, but it doesn't run.
<Step>
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