Seagate 500 GB Drive

I have an interesting situation with Seagate 500 GB drive I recently installed in my Sawtooth G4. The drive is a Seagate 7200.10.
My computer recognizes the drive, and really, the drive works. However, If I connect an ultra 133 cable to it, my computer cannot download/convert a music CD from iTunes.....My computer crashes. My computer can read files from this drive, and save to it from applications like Word. iTunes will even playback songs that are downloaded to this drive. So everything works, my computer just won't download to this drive from iTunes.
Now here's what's weird. If I connect this drive to my computer via and old IDE cable, my computer will download to it from iTunes, and it works fine for every application I use. The old cable I am referring to is a 3M IDE cable that reads AWM 2651, VW-1, 105 C, 300 V, 28AWG.
The suspect Ultra Cable reads AWM 20276, VW-1, 80 C, 300 V, 30 AWG.
I connect large drives to the motherboard via a SIIG Ultra ATA controller.
So, can anyone give an explanation for this strange occurrance.
Thanks,
Ray

Hello Ray,
There are a couple of posts on the SIIG card. It may prefer Western Digital to Seagate drives, and it may prefer cable select to master/slave cabling. Mine worked initially when I used already an already formatted drive - I think an ATA-100 Seagate drive with the factory supplied 80 conductor ribbon, but I don't remember for sure. Might have been a mule. Disaster struck when I went to erase and install OSX (Tiger).
Not sure what the diference in cables would be; I think the 80 conductor ATA-100 cables simply supply a ground for each pin.
Hope I'm not leading you astray with a red herring; I still think it's the card, somehow. Don't know how you'd check it. I've used Acard and Sonnet controller cards - and also some awfully raggedy cables - with never a problem.
Regards ..... Jon

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