Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 vs 7200.11

I am going to add an additional hard drive to my G5 quad and was thinking of a Seagate in the 500GB size. This drive will act mainly as a scratch and media drive (my photos are getting out of hand)
I read somewhere that the 11th generation of the Barracuda drives is not compatible with G5 systems, that I have to go down to the 10th generation (something to do with Spread Spectrum Clocking) which also means 16mb buffer instead of 32mb
Has anyone had any luck with either of these drives?
Wojtek from Canada

Have you checked here?
http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/drivedb/search.drivedb.lasso
OWC always checks Seagate and sometimes other models for latest firmware, so I would check there.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/3.5-SerialATA/
As for size etc. I prefer WD and would look at their 640GB model.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Western%20Digital/WD6400AAKS/
http://www.barefeats.com/harper14.html

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Cloning WinXP onto Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA hard disk

Greetings everybody!
I recently wanted to clone my existing (perfectly working) Windows XP Home boot hard disk onto a brand new 320 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA drive, model ST3320620AS. The existing boot C-disk is a 250 GB Western Digital SATA, which is in my Fujitsu Siemens Scaleo P (the CPU being an AMD Athlon 64 3700+). The motherboard is an ASUS A8NE-FM with the SATA interface being a NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller.
I struggled quite a bit getting the cloned Seagate SATA disk to work as a Windows XP boot drive, but eventually got it working – using Acronis True Image Home version 9, build 3.854 (http://www.acronis.com/). Here’s how I eventually succeeded; hope it may be useful to others! ( - and I of course realize that ASUS motherboards are not made by MSI, but at the same time I have seen several MSI-users reporting similar difficulties…).
A small hint: You may download, at no cost, a full-functioning version of “Acronis True Image 10 Home”, usable for a 15 days trial period (http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/download/trueimage/). If you can manage to clone your hard disk within this period, well, it’ll be completely free! A free Windows XP clone utility, which I don’t know how well functions, is XXclone, see http://xxclone.com/.
Here’s how I did (there may be other ways, but, well, this worked for me):
1) First mounted the Seagate ST3320620AS as the D-drive (the C-drive being the Western Digital boot drive). Kept Seagate factory-default jumper setting (“Limit data transfer rate to 1.5 Gbits per second “). Booted up, went into the BIOS (being Nvidia 42302e31 Phoenix AwardBIOS v6.00PG according to ”System Info for Windows” from http://www.gtopala.com/ ), and configured the Seagate drive as follows: Second Master SATA HDD, Extended IDE Drive: Auto, Access Mode: Large (NB: Do NOT select ”Auto” here!!), Capacity: 320 GB, Cylinder: 4095, Head: 240, Precomp: 0, Landing Zone: 65534, Sector: 255. Save configuration and exit BIOS.
2) Booted up on the old Western Digital C-drive. Used Seagate’s DiscWizard to format and partition the ST3320620AS (http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/discwizard). The drive was formatted NTFS (4k block size, and one single partition). This went smooth (Windows XP however complained of some of the Seagate drivers not being ”WHQL certified” – just continued, anyway). Then right-clicked on ”My Computer" --> "Manage" --> ”Computer Management” --> ”Disk Management”. Right-clicked on the Seagate disk, then clicked ”Mark Partition as Active”. The Seagate drive is now seen in Windows as drive D, and is ready for use.
3) Ran Acronis True Image Home ver. 9, build 3.854 and cloned the Western Digital disk onto the Seagate. This went smooth and took less than five minutes (data amount on the Western Digital C-drive, containing Windows XP Home, \Program Files, \Documents and Settings and not much else, being approx. 10 GB). Impressing fast cloning! Exit and shut-down.
4) Removed the Western Digital drive from the PC, keeping only the new Seagate disk. Booted, went into BIOS, configured the boot drive as the Seagate: First or Second Master SATA HDD (according to what SATA cable is being used), Extended IDE Drive: Auto, Access Mode: Large (NB: Do NOT select ”Auto” here!!), Capacity: 320 GB, Cylinder: 4095, Head: 240, Precomp: 0, Landing Zone: 65534, Sector: 255. Save and exit BIOS.
5) Booted into Windows XP Home on the newly cloned Seagate SATA drive. Success!! End of story!
THANKS to several of ASUS forum users help!
Best regards,
Johan
Copenhagen
Denmark
NOTE the there seems to be an error in some of the ASUS motherboards (or in the BIOS?), incl. the A8NE-FM, which makes it impossible to boot from an apparently successfully Windows XP cloned Seagate SATA drive unless first having set the ”Access Mode” in the BIOS to ”Large” before formatting and cloning. Some also claim that NCQ for the Seagate drive must be disabled; I have not done this and the cloned drive boots and works perfectly with NCQ enabled. (NB: If not setting ”Access Mode” to ”Large”, but if keeping the default BIOS setting of ”Auto”, then it is perfectly possible to both format, partition, set active and clone onto the drive. When attempting to boot using the cloned drive one gets this message: ”Error loading operating system” (or in Danish: ”Fejl ved indlæsning af operativsystem”). Further links discussing this issue:
SATA boot problem: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20060822025446574&board_id=1&model=A8N-E&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
Cannot boot from SATA drive: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20061109224813953&board_id=1&model=A8N-E&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
Problem with installing XP on 320 GB HDD: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20060622193708298&board_id=1&model=A8N-E&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
Seagate SATAII disk unable to boot: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20060518000042851&board_id=1&model=A8N-E&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
A8N-E, SATA and XP Professional Installation: http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20060327192440824&board_id=1&model=A8N-E&page=1&SLanguage=en-us

"NOTE the there seems to be an error in some of the ASUS motherboards (or in the BIOS?), incl. the A8NE-FM, which makes it impossible to boot from an apparently successfully Windows XP cloned Seagate SATA drive unless first having set the ”Access Mode” in the BIOS to ”Large” before formatting and cloning. Some also claim that NCQ for the Seagate drive must be disabled; I have not done this and the cloned drive boots and works perfectly with NCQ enabled. (NB: If not setting ”Access Mode” to ”Large”, but if keeping the default BIOS setting of ”Auto”, then it is perfectly possible to both format, partition, set active and clone onto the drive. When attempting to boot using the cloned drive one gets this message: ”Error loading operating system” (or in Danish: ”Fejl ved indlæsning af operativsystem”). Further links discussing this issue:"
that links are useless(for MSI owners), its described bug into BIOS which cannot determinate property HDD access mode. its specified problem related to this Asus board and specific BIOS version. exactly same problem happend and arrive with Gigabyte board after update BIOS to the latest one which suppose to fix "some things" and totally unexpected in background comes this issue..... seems some of Asus BIOSes got same issue...
MSI boards doesn't have this issue in any BIOS version.

Seagate Barracuda 7200 160gb Won't Mount

I have a Seagate Barracuda 7200 160gb from a PowerMac G5. It spins up just fine. Sounds normal but is not mounting. I have used a Manhattan USB Dock, A Universal USB Drive Adapter. I had it mounted once externally and ran Disk Repair on it, and it still would not mount in the G5. I even took it to a local data recovery shop and they can't see it either. I've read a lot online about possibly replacing the PDB Circuit Board or the BIOS chip. I've also ran Disk Warrior - doesn't see it.
Is there a way to check what is actually the issue? BIOS, Board, Corrupted OS, etc.?
Tomorrow I'm calling Seagate to see if they can do anything. Basically I'm trying to get the data off of it for someone, then get a new drive and install then migrate assist if possible.
Thanks for any help

why would I need another drive.
To scavenge the board.
You can't just slap any old board on there.
The same model and the same firmware are the general requirements for board swaps to gain access to data....
Why would it need this?
The data rate limit is needed on retail drives to allow proper communication with the G5 controller.
The G5 controller and Seagate retail drives have a nasty history. One, the limit jumper is needed, but NCQ was enabled by default, and later, so was SSC. Neither of these features is compatible with the G5 controller.
It is the drive that was shipped with it when he bought it brand new from Apple.
Hmmm, my ESP wasn't working as well as it usually does.....
If the drive is OEM Apple shipped, then it has Apple firmware which changes jumper requirements.

Seagate Barracuda 7200.1 500GB 7200RPM S300 32MB

Will the:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.1 500GB 7200RPM S300 32MB
be compatible in my
2 x 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon Mac Pro
I noticed that my machine has a Seagate Baraacude 250GB drive in so I assumed this would also work.
Do I need to purchase additional SATA cables or do these drives plug directly into the motherboard of the MacPro?

Yes, it will work. Installation information is in the Mac Pro User Guide manual that came with your computer. Page 38, I believe.

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 or ES.2 for RAID 5

Hello all.
I've searched through past topics to avoid repetition, and my knowledge of RAID is somewhat limited. Nonetheless.....
I've purchased a Mac Pro 2x Quad Core for the audio company that I work for, and plan to fill up the hard drives with an extensive audio library which will be accessed via Logic Studio.
We are planning on purchasing a RAID card, using RAID 5 in order to stripe and mirror the drives.
The hard drives we are looking at are Seagate Barracuda 1TB drives, and I am struggling to determine which will be most appropriate.
Having researched around, it was suggested to me that the Seagate Barracuda ES.2 drives are more appropriate for using with a RAID card, although considering the increased cost compared to the 7200.11 drives [an extra £180), I'd like to find out is this is really necessary.
If any of you have any advice, suggestions, etc., I would be most grateful.
Louise.

If you are in an enterprise in which these drives will be in relatively continuous use, then it would be wise to purchase the ES enterprise models because they are intended for heavy enterprise usage. If all you do is an occasional backup to the RAID and the usage is light and the drives are not running 24/7, then you may do fine with the less expensive versions.
Here is some information and additional links to help you learn more about RAIDs.
RAID Basics
For basic definitions and discussion of what a RAID is and the different types of RAIDs see RAIDs. Additional discussions plus advantages and disadvantages of RAIDs and different RAID arrays see:
RAID Tutorial;
RAID Array and Server: Hardware and Service Comparison>.
Hardware or Software RAID?
RAID Hardware Vs RAID Software - What is your best option?
RAID is a method of combining multiple disk drives into a single entity in order to improve the overall performance and reliability of your system. The different options for combining the disks are referred to as RAID levels. There are several different levels of RAID available depending on the needs of your system. One of the options available to you is whether you should use a Hardware RAID solution or a Software RAID solution.
RAID Hardware is always a disk controller to which you can cable up the disk drives. RAID Software is a set of kernel modules coupled together with management utilities that implement RAID in Software and require no additional hardware.
Pros and cons
Software RAID is more flexible than Hardware RAID. Software RAID is also considerably less expensive. On the other hand, a Software RAID system requires more CPU cycles and power to run well than a comparable Hardware RAID System. Also, because Software RAID operates on a partition by partition basis where a number of individual disk partitions are grouped together as opposed to Hardware RAID systems which generally group together entire disk drives, Software RAID tends be slightly more complicated to run. This is because it has more available configurations and options. An added benefit to the slightly more expensive Hardware RAID solution is that many Hardware RAID systems incorporate features that are specialized for optimizing the performance of your system.
For more detailed information on the differences between Software RAID and Hardware RAID you may want to read: Hardware RAID vs. Software RAID: Which Implementation is Best for my Application?

IMAC 2010 which HDD can I use to replace the malfunctioned Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB?

iMAC 2010 which HDD can I use to replace the malfunctioned Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB?

After doing a bit more research, the 2010 iMacs do appear to have a third cable connecting to the hard drive, for the internal temp sensor. This would appear to be the block of 8 pins that are on almost all drives, but they are normally intended for jumpers. Unfortunately I was unable to find any documentation or specs that would indicate this pin block connects to the internal temp sensor on either standard (non-Apple) WD Black or Seagate 7200.12 drives.
I did find some info that may be of some use:
WD: Where to connect an external temperature sensor to a Serial ATA or EIDE hard drive.iFixit: Replace the hard drive, how do I connect the hard drive thermal sensor?
Apple Technician Guide: iMac 2010 27" (mid-2010)
Various discussion threads I found through google searching indicated some people succeeded with installing an external temp sensor on the body of the drive.
Sorry I couldn't help more.

READ THIS | If your model 7200.11 Seagate Barracuda drive ST3500620AS has stopped working.

HP has finally released a firmware update for the 7200.11 Seagate Barracuda drive (affected model ST3500620AS).
If your computer has been freezing, or if your hard drive has all of a sudden stopped showing up in BIOS (BIOSHD-2 error), this firmware update might unbrick your drive and give you access to your data again.
Find it here: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=US&swItem=vc-681...
I am going to try it on my bricked drive tonight and will let you know how it goes.
cheers,
doon
This question was solved.
View Solution.

So, after much heartache, many trials and moments of desperation I have succeeded in doing what every HP support person told me was impossible:
I have unbricked my drive AND have recovered ALL of my data!!!
How did I do it, you might ask? First let me tell you what happened before my joyous moment:
I have been researching the Seagate firmware issue since Decemeber and read a lot about the issues people were having and the causes for these problems. Seems like what this firmware bug does is cause one of two problems: either the drive shows up in BIOS but shows 0 capacity, or it doesn't show up in BIOS at all. It seems that the OEM drives we all have in our TouchSmarts were affeced by the latter issue (hard drive no longer showing up). This is due to the drive getting stuck in a mode (google BSY error and you'll find the issue) which does not allow it to respond back; it is, in effect, eternally busy.
As a result of this BSY error, I could not run the newly posted HP firmware update for our Seagate drives. This is when the heartache began. After countless hours of research and digging, I came across the following forum which became my El Dorado.
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=128807
If the link above gets scrubbed, simply search for the title of the posting: "The Solution for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs"
This fine gentleman from Chile, South America worked it all out. I bought the parts he suggested, read the post to see if any modifications were made and decided to try what he suggested in a last ditch effort to save my data. The revised post is here:
Read this one for the step by step solution: http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=128807&st=100
Basically, the tutorial walks you through the steps needed to "hack" into your hard drive's board and "talk to it directly" via Hyper Terminal (I ended up using a USB data cable for my old Siemens mobile phone, though). It took me two goes at it and a lot of patience and careful reading, but my drive came back to life!
So again, here are my details and issues for you in summary:
Hardware:
- HP TouchSmart IQ506
- Seagate Barracuda drive: 500GB, ST3500620AS, model series 7200.11, HP firmware version HP24
Problem Description:
- The drive just stopped working
- Booted my PC and the drive was no longer showing up in BIOS
- Hard drive light was continuously lit
- Hard drive made no funny clicking noises
- The drive was not responsive to the new firmware fix (HP13 Rev. A from 6 Feb 2009)
I hope this helps someone out there. If you need any help, please contact me and I will try my best to help!
Best Regards,
Doon
EDIT: Of course, after I had access to the drive, I ran the new firmware update. You can get that here:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=pv-68339-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&...
Message Edited by doon on 02-16-2009 01:14 AM
cheers,
doon

MSI K8N Neo4-F + Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 120Gb PATA = PIO

If I have the two above components together, and enable DMA in the BIOS, the system won't boot. I have to disable DMA to get the system to boot, but then transfer speeds are excruciating!
Suggestions? Can't be a driver issue as I get this problem even before an OS is installed.
K8N Neo4-F (non SLI edition) [BIOS v1.6]
Athlon 64 3700+
PC3200 Crucial 1Gb (2x512Mb sticks in dual channel)
BFG 7800GT OC 256Mb
Creative X-Fi Fatality FPS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 120Gb (EIDE) [ST3120026A]
Seasonic S12 500W PSU
XP Pro

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Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750640NS 750 GB - slow random access in MacPro

I installed four Seagate Barracuda ES ST3750640NS 750 GB disks in my MacPro (5GB RAM). They are mounted as two RAID-1 arrays (mirrored, no speed up).
It seems that also those (not just the non-ES, …AS version) suffers from slow speeds (<1MB) in random access with small blocks. How much this is representative of typical access with Mac OS X I cannot tell, but still this looks like some kind of incompatibility of the drives' firmware with a MacPro.
Does anyone have experience on how to correct that?
Xbench 1.3 results:
Disk Test 35.16
Sequential 93.74
Uncached Write 83.37 51.19 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 120.10 67.95 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 73.82 21.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 113.60 57.09 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 21.64
Uncached Write 6.46 0.68 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 88.67 28.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 85.41 0.61 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 140.90 26.14 MB/sec [256K blocks]
12" PB G4/1.2GHz- Mac Book Pro 17" - 12" iB G3/500 MHz - Mac mini G4 as server Mac OS X (10.4.8)

All of the Seagate 7200.10 model hard drives have slow Random Read performance. None of the different model numbers change this fact. There is no fix for this and you will probably only notice this issue when opening a large library with Aperture or some other application that depends on a large number of small files to read.
The Randowm write performance of the Seagate 7200.10 models is actually very good. In addition, the large block copy capabilities of the 7200.10 models is exceptional.
Xbench tests make the Seagate 7200.10 model performance look much worse than it actually is.

Which 1 TB Seagate Barracuda is best for video editing?

Hi,
I'm about to buy a 1 TB drive for my Mac Pro to increase storage space for video files and not sure which one would suit me best out of the:
Seagate BarracudaNL NL35 Hard drive 1 TB Internal 3.5" SATA300 7200 rpm buffer 32 MB
or
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 Hard drive 1 TB Internal 3.5" SATA300 7200 rpm buffer: 32 MB
Any opinions on which is best or if you think there is a better drive out there in the same price range?
I'm in a bit of a hurry so quick responses would be great.
Thanks

You are in a hurry... so?
Where to get benchmarks and more than just personal ideas and opinions, check out AMUG Reviews along with Barefeats along with AccelerateYourMac along with sites and forums that deal in video. StorageReview has usually done excellent review coverage but has slowed down but they looked at what is going on with Seagate line lately.
http://www.barefeats.com/hard94.html
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/IDE/1TBHDs_MacPro/1TB_hard_drivetests.html#storytop
It isn't just what to buy, but where, and firmware. Samsung, Hitachi (latest model) and I wish WD would get their latest Black series. OWC checks to insure Seagate drives have the latest firmware as they have been problematic (for years now on Macs).
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/

Adding seagate barracuda drive confused about cables

I have a seagate barracuda 7200.10 Ultra ata 160GB HD
I'm installing it on a G5 tower.
I'm following the apple guide for this: http://www.info.apple.com/usen/cip/pdf/g5/073-0806.pdf
The black cables on the G5 are smaller and much different looking than the back of the Seagate. The picture of the replacement/second drive in the apple pdf has the same HD pins as mine (a long data cable pins and a four prong power pins)
How do I mount this drive?

Hi Joseph, ATA/IDE/PATA drives won't work in a G5, you need a SATA drive, though there are ATA to SATA adapters, they may not fit in the regulsr installation place.

Seagate Barracuda SATA II Internal HD Compatible for G5 DP?

Dera Forum,
Please verify that the Int HD
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 SATAII NCQ 3Gb/s 500GB 16MB Cache OEM
Model Number: ST3500418AS
is fully compatible with the G5 DP.
Thanks,

Hi-
NCQ is firmware controlled (hard drive firmware).
That shouldn't be an issue, just know that the feature isn't supported.
Explanation of 1.5Gb/s jumper:
http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=194095&NewLan g=en
Explanation with link to diagram:
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?locale=en-US&name=SerialATA_Jumpers_andCabling&vgnextoid=4a02242cb043e010VgnVCM100000dd04090aRCRD
Most people try the drive without, first.
If issues are encountered, then they set the jumper.
I would set the jumper from the beginning, as many report of the necessity.

Quicksilver 800 won't see a Seagate Barracuda HD for OSX Install

Hello Hello
I picked a used 2003 G4 Quicksilver 800 MHZ and it came with a WD400BB Cavier 40 HD formatted with OS 9.2
For some reason this HD has a jumper configuration for a SLAVE (even though the connector cable is Black)
Anyway, I installed a new Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM, 120 Gig that had it's jumper on 'Cable Select'
http://www.powermax.com/product/Seagate120gb_Barracuda_Ata100_7200rpm_8mb7200.9/h16802.html
I connected it to the gray ATA/IDE cable, and booted with the C prompt - The system successfully booted off my Full Retail OSX disc with the C prompt, and I was able to go to Disc Utility just fine, and erased the new drive with the option of OSX Extended, (Journaled) - it seemed to erase fine
But after the installer program prompts get past the License Agreement, the process does NOT allow the install process to actually 'SEE' the new 120 Gig HD - There is NO DESTINATION to format to? It's just Blank ...
I can however see the new 120 Gig thru the disc utility, but NOT during the install process ....
Anybody have any ideas?
Thank you
Mike

Hi Thomas
Hi The hatter
How are you guys?
Thanx for your input - ya know something tells me I if I hadn't brought up the issue of the jumper assigments on the 2 internal HD's, I wonder if this does matter as to why to the newest 2nd internal HD that I just installed isn't recognized?
Yes it struck me odd that the original 40 Gig WD HD in the bottom bay, connected by a black-colored connector and that cable connector (as you say), is in the middle of the ribbon - and this particular drive had it's jumper set to 'SLAVE'
As The hatter surmises:
"The original owner probably just removed the master drive and kept that"
Ok - that being the case, do you guys think it will solve my problem to re-assign the newer larger drive (on top), as the 'MASTER'? Because Thomas mentioned that using 'Cable Select' for BOTH drives sometimes doesn't solve the problem.
Do you guys think if I re-assign the newer larger drive (on top), as the 'MASTER', then I will finally see the new drive recognized in the install process?
Let me mention something else:
Even if I didn't have the OSX (Full Retail) disc in the CDROM draw, and kept the new drive in the top bay, (with that new drive set to cable select), when I tried to boot to OS 9.2 (which had been previously installed in the old drive), all I got was the little tiny flashing Apple Icon with a "Question Mark", and the boot process would get stuck there.
Does all of this still point to improper jumper settings?
If so, it sounds like the ideal configuration should be one drive on 'Slave', and the other on 'Master'
So I'll try to keep OS 9.2 in the original HD set to 'Slave', and try to install OSX to the newer drive set to 'Master'
Thank guys - I really appreciate eveything

Western Digital or Seagate Barracuda?!

Hi,
I would like to purchase an additional 250gb ATA drive for my 1.25ghz G4 MDD. I previously posted on here regarding the better of the two between the Seagate or Hitach drives, but I have now ruled out the Hitachi. However, I am now divided between the Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 and the Western Digital Caviar SE. I would like to know peoples recommendations/experiences with these drives. It really is important that the drive is reliable, fast and also very quiet (all of which these drives claim to be). I did read a review that the Barracuda 7200.10 drive made a pecking noise when being accessed and therefore I would like to know if anyone else has noticed this.
All feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Hi-
The 7200.10 series has been plagued by firmware problems that can cause slow read or write speeds in a Power Mac (or Mac Pro for that matter). Though most reports concern the SATA version, I am concerned with the 7200.10 and the native controller of a Mac. If the drive were the 7200.9, then I give it 5 thumbs up...
I have a WD Caviar in a QS G4. Very nice, very quiet (virtually silent). Makes a small "click" (very small) when sleeping or shutting down, but this is due to the the automatic head park mechanism doing what it was designed to do (nice feature). I really like the drive. You may be interested in this article. The conclusion says it all.

K8T MS 6702 V 1.0 + Seagate Barracuda SATA II + Windows 7

Hello,
Im new on this forum! Im having serious trouble getting my system set up. I have a K8T Neo MS 6702 V 1.0 mobo and right now im trying to install windows 7 on my new hard drive. the hard drive is a Seagate barracuda 7200 SATA 2. when installing windows 7 I get asked to deliver drivers for the new hard drive. when I put in a CD-rom with drivers or a Floppy, I am able to load the drivers and view the partition on the hard drive. So om thinking windows must be able to install. when I roll through the installation it has to reboot several times. the first reboot works out fine, but the second one doesn't go all that well. is boots up to the splash screen. when I try safe mode I can see it loading windows up to a file called: classpnp.sys. Now I have read that this mobo does not work with SATA 2, but then you should be able to jumper the drive to SATA 1. The thing is , there is no way I can use jumpers on this drive. I will give a list of my system specs now.
AMD Athlon 64 (socket 754)
K8T Neo MS-6702 ATX V1.0
VIA k8T800 chipset
VIA VT8237 chipset
Promise 20378 on board
Seagate barracuda SATA 2 750 Gb
I have tried going into the recovery mode of windows 7 with the installation DVD but when I have it to check out my boot problems it comes back with an error saying that there is no hard drive installed. Im wondering if this has to do with the mobo or the harddrive. I havn't updated the bios because I'm affraid I mess up the bios.
If you guys need any more info ill try and find out!
I hope someone can help me out here.

I don't really know but you can read this and see if it does you any good.
http://www.sevenforums.com/drivers/19163-fasttrak-376-378-windows-7-driver-help.html

Mac Pro (First Generation) problem with 1TB Seagate Barracuda

Hi Macianer,
I have a first generation Mac Pro which was sold with max. 750GB Hard drives for each bay. At this time I am grabbing for straws and maybe someone has any info on this problem.
I purchased 4 x 1TB Seagate Barracuda hard drives ( Model: ST31000340AS / Firmware: SD15 ), did a regular format after I purchased them ( GUID Partition Table, Journaled HFS+ File System). I am using 2 of them internally (they get quite hot and i didn't want to put all 4 of them in there) and two of them externally (backup purposes). The other two internal bays are covered by 2x 500GB Barracuda drives.
I put all four 1 TB hard drived through a 1 week stress test to make sure I am not dealing with bad apples. So far this practice served me well.
Now 2 weeks later one completely crashed (internal boot drive). It sounded to spin up alright but was not accessible at all. I went to BestBuy and GeekSquad said this drive is crashed and I returned it.
Since I had a backup I didn't worry too much. I put the back up hard drive in as the new boot drive (since it was a SuperDuper duplicat) it worked like a charm. Now the second hard drive starts temporarily freezing the system for 2-4 minutes and seems to get stuck showing the great colored ball of doom. After the freeze it continues to operate normal again and I am able to continue my work.
I ran the Disk Utility and I got the following message:
INVALID KEY LENGTH
VOLUME CHECK FAILED.
ERROR: FILESYSTEM VERIFY OR REPAIR FAILED.
It just seems weird, I never had problems with hard drives and now I get these problems with 3-4 week old hard drives.
I was in a chat with seagate support. First question to trouble shoot: Do you have access to a PC. My answer was no since Microsoft Vista I donated all of them to the Salvation Army. He asked if I formatted the hard drives low level and MBR with HFS+. I said since I do not have access to PC nor do I plan on using my hard drives for PC I formatted it regular with GUID and HFS+. I asked if there is any history of these drives that would help explain my experience. I was hoping for a recall or something of that sort or something that a firmware upgrade would remedy.
I guess my question is, is the first generation Mac Pro, even though it seems to format and run them fine, not able to handle 1TB hard drives on a daily basis. Or am I dealing with hard drive problems? The Seagate guy didn't seem to be of any help.
Any help is appreciated or even pointers that would help me in finding the problem.
Cheers,
PixelGrinch
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Excellent questions, I too am looking at SSD.
Some things I know about SSD:
1. Intel recently released new firmware for their SSD drives to improve long term performance including Trim/Garbage collection.
2. SSD drives can be setup as SLC or MLC - SLC is faster read 2X, write 4X over MLC, however SLC is smaller capacity. SLC also has a longer life span.
3. Intel plans to have an 320GB X25-M (MLC) and a 128GB X25-E (SLC) out soon.
OSX does not fully support Trim and I'm not aware of any 3rd party software for OSX that helps in the garbage collection area. Diskeeper 2010 for Windows 7 provides full support for all variants of SSD, but nothing on the Mac side.
I'm probably going to wait for 2010 to see what comes out, SSD appears to be good news, but it still also seems to have issues. Given the cost of these drivers and the frequent firmware updates, a wait and see is my choice.
I've thought about going with a SAS RAID controller and 15K RAID drivers, but the cost/performance ratio comes out about the same and the 15K drives are noisey and power hungry but they're a "known" entity.
Rob

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