Seamless transitions

Hi guys,
I've recently just created some animations in after effects that i have linked to blank menus to make them video menus. i have also created invisible buttons set to auto activate so that when you move between them it changes to a different video menu. this looks and works great however there is a slight delay between the transitions. Is there any way you can stop this delay between menus? I've read a couple of posts that say there been some kind of button that does it in encore 2, and that the delay happens due to the two assets been in seperate locations on the disc causing the laser to jump between menus, thus causing the delay. can anyone please explain a step by step process to solve this?
any help would be much appriciated, and thanks in advance!!
Matt

Matt & Jack,
Where do you see the "slight delay?" Is it in Preview, or on a burned DVD (RW to keep from making coasters)? In Preview, you WILL see a delay and usually a black frame. On a burned DVD, I can see only a hint of a delay, and I'm looking specifically FOR it. A causal user will likely never know that it's there.
Hunt

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My last production I tried to make a seamless transition between a menu selection and the feature. Encore seems to always want to dip (or jump) to black after a selection is made. Can a future version (2.0?) add some flexibility to make transitions in and out of menus? Look at any of the Hollywood-style DVDs now; they all have an animation or clip that melds with the menu and again once a choice has been made. Just a suggestion.
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So you are saying what they do is possible in Encore? What I don't understand or have trouble agreeing with you both on here is the whole part that leads into and out of the menu. You are telling me that that is just part of the menu being a motion menu, but that the buttons just don't appear until a certain point in the motion menu, then they disappear when a button is selected to continue in the motion menu transition? Make sense? I know there is a VERY slight, but barely noticeable jitter or whatever you wanna call it between each of those points, but it is so slight that it is almost not recognizable.
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Sorry if I sound ignorant and argumentative, I am not trying to be, this is just something I have been wanting to do but have not figured out how to with my previous attempts, and I thought it might just not be possible with consumer/prosumer level applications as opposed to pro-level DVD authoring that they do in Hollywood. Thank you guys for your help and input.
Edit: DUH! Man I am so stupid, ugh. What I was trying to say above is exactly what they do! You guys are TOTALLY CORRECT! Thank you for helping me with this, now my DVD's of the future will be MUCH BETTER! I don't know why I didn't even think of this before, sheesh. Anyway, I just watched through the Nemo DVD and saw that this is exactly how they do it. Thanks again! I apologize for so ignorantly disagreeing with you oh great ones! HA!

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Am I missing a very simple work-around here?
First be sure you are burning a test to check for pauses.
Second, you don't make the intro piece its own timeline:
Here's encore help:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/encore/cs/using/WSA5513911-0AD1-440c-BDAD-2E0E806B425E.html
Here's an adobe tutorial on using AE for EN menus:
http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/?id=vid0258
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http://help.adobe.com/en_US/aftereffects/cs/using/WS3878526689cb91655866c1103906c6dea-7e45 a.html
Here is the tutorial page on Jon Geddes':
http://www.precomposed.com/tutorials/
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[SOLVED] efibootmgr not generating boot loader (rEFInd, etc.) entry.

Hello,
The following command runs without problem or any output. It wouldn't create any entry. Also my refind.conf is not being followed. rEFInd is able to detect kernels and boot fine from /boot
efibootmgr -c -g -d /dev/sda -p 1 -w -L "rEFInd" -l '\EFI\refind\refind_x64.efi'
Information
efibootmgr 0.6.0-1
refind-efi 0.6.8-1
Linux 3.8.4-1-ARCH
sudo efibootmgr
BootCurrent: 000A
Timeout: 0 seconds
BootOrder: 0006,0007,0008,0009,000A,000B,000C,000D,000E,000F,0010,0011,0012,0013
Boot0000 Setup
Boot0001 Boot Menu
Boot0002 Diagnostic Splash Screen
Boot0003 Startup Interrupt Menu
Boot0004 ME Configuration Menu
Boot0005 Rescue and Recovery
Boot0006* USB CD
Boot0007* USB FDD
Boot0008* ATAPI CD0
Boot0009* ATA HDD2
Boot000A* ATA HDD0
Boot000B* ATA HDD1
Boot000C* USB HDD
Boot000D* PCI LAN
Boot000E* ATAPI CD1
Boot000F* ATAPI CD2
Boot0010 Other CD
Boot0011* ATA HDD3
Boot0012* ATA HDD4
Boot0013 Other HDD
Boot0014* IDER BOOT CDROM
Boot0015* IDER BOOT Floppy
Boot0016* ATA HDD
Boot0017* ATAPI CD:
Boot0018* PCI LAN
ls -R /boot
/boot:
EFI initramfs-linux-fallback.img initramfs-linux.img refind_linux.conf vmlinuz-linux
/boot/EFI:
boot refind tools
/boot/EFI/boot:
bootx64.efi icons refind.conf
/boot/EFI/boot/icons:
*** Icons
/boot/EFI/refind:
icons refind.conf refind_x64.efi
/boot/EFI/refind/icons:
*** icons
/boot/EFI/tools:
drivers shells
/boot/EFI/tools/drivers:
ext2_x64.efi ext4_x64.efi hfs_x64.efi iso9660_x64.efi reiserfs_x64.efi
/boot/EFI/tools/shells:
Shell.efi Shell_Full.efi
cat /boot/refind_linux.conf
"Boot to X" "root=PARTUUID=5416f920-35fc-42a8-8a34-564c8c332bfe ro rootfstype=ext4 add_efi_memmap systemd.unit=graphical.target"
"Boot to Console" "root=PARTUUID=5416f920-35fc-42a8-8a34-564c8c332bfe ro rootfstype=ext4 add_efi_memmap systemd.unit=multi-user.target"
# refind.conf
# Configuration file for the rEFInd boot menu
# Timeout in seconds for the main menu screen. Setting the timeout to 0
# disables automatic booting (i.e., no timeout).
timeout 5
# Hide user interface elements for personal preference or to increase
# security:
# banner - the rEFInd title banner (built-in or loaded via "banner")
# label - boot option text label in the menu
# singleuser - remove the submenu options to boot Mac OS X in single-user
# or verbose modes; affects ONLY MacOS X
# safemode - remove the submenu option to boot Mac OS X in "safe mode"
# hwtest - the submenu option to run Apple's hardware test
# arrows - scroll arrows on the OS selection tag line
# hints - brief command summary in the menu
# editor - the options editor (+, F2, or Insert on boot options menu)
# all - all of the above
# Default is none of these (all elements active)
#hideui singleuser
#hideui all
# Set the name of a subdirectory in which icons are stored. Icons must
# have the same names they have in the standard directory. The directory
# name is specified relative to the main rEFInd binary's directory. If
# an icon can't be found in the specified directory, an attempt is made
# to load it from the default directory; thus, you can replace just some
# icons in your own directory and rely on the default for others.
# Default is "icons".
#icons_dir myicons
# Use a custom title banner instead of the rEFInd icon and name. The file
# path is relative to the directory where refind.efi is located. The color
# in the top left corner of the image is used as the background color
# for the menu screens. Currently uncompressed BMP images with color
# depths of 24, 8, 4 or 1 bits are supported, as well as PNG images.
#banner hostname.bmp
#banner mybanner.png
# Custom images for the selection background. There is a big one (144 x 144)
# for the OS icons, and a small one (64 x 64) for the function icons in the
# second row. If only a small image is given, that one is also used for
# the big icons by stretching it in the middle. If only a big one is given,
# the built-in default will be used for the small icons.
# Like the banner option above, these options take a filename of an
# uncompressed BMP image file with a color depth of 24, 8, 4, or 1 bits,
# or a PNG image. The PNG format is required if you need transparency
# support (to let you "see through" to a full-screen banner).
#selection_big selection-big.bmp
#selection_small selection-small.bmp
# Set the font to be used for all textual displays in graphics mode.
# The font must be a PNG file with alpha channel transparency. It must
# contain ASCII characters 32-126 (space through tilde), inclusive, plus
# a glyph to be displayed in place of characters outside of this range,
# for a total of 96 glyphs. Only monospaced fonts are supported. Fonts
# may be of any size, although large fonts can produce display
# irregularities.
# The default is rEFInd's built-in font, Luxi Mono Regular 12 point.
#font myfont.png
# Use text mode only. When enabled, this option forces rEFInd into text mode.
# Passing this option a "0" value causes graphics mode to be used. Pasing
# it no value or any non-0 value causes text mode to be used.
# Default is to use graphics mode.
#textonly
textonly
# Set the EFI text mode to be used for textual displays. This option
# takes a single digit that refers to a mode number. Mode 0 is normally
# 80x25, 1 is sometimes 80x50, and higher numbers are system-specific
# modes. Mode 1024 is a special code that tells rEFInd to not set the
# text mode; it uses whatever was in use when the program was launched.
# If you specify an invalid mode, rEFInd pauses during boot to inform
# you of valid modes.
# CAUTION: On VirtualBox, and perhaps on some real computers, specifying
# a text mode and uncommenting the "textonly" option while NOT specifying
# a resolution can result in an unusable display in the booted OS.
# Default is 1024 (no change)
#textmode 2
textmode 1024
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# * two values, corresponding to the X and Y resolutions
# * one value, corresponding to a GOP (UEFI) video mode
# Note that not all resolutions are supported. On UEFI systems, passing
# an incorrect value results in a message being shown on the screen to
# that effect, along with a list of supported modes. On EFI 1.x systems
# (e.g., Macintoshes), setting an incorrect mode silently fails. On both
# types of systems, setting an incorrect resolution results in the default
# resolution being used. A resolution of 1024x768 usually works, but higher
# values often don't.
# Default is "0 0" (use the system default resolution, usually 800x600).
#resolution 1024 768
#resolution 3
resolution 1024 768
# Launch specified OSes in graphics mode. By default, rEFInd switches
# to text mode and displays basic pre-launch information when launching
# all OSes except OS X. Using graphics mode can produce a more seamless
# transition, but displays no information, which can make matters
# difficult if you must debug a problem. Also, on at least one known
# computer, using graphics mode prevents a crash when using the Linux
# kernel's EFI stub loader. You can specify an empty list to boot all
# OSes in text mode.
# Valid options:
# osx - Mac OS X
# linux - A Linux kernel with EFI stub loader
# elilo - The ELILO boot loader
# grub - The GRUB (Legacy or 2) boot loader
# windows - Microsoft Windows
# Default value: osx
#use_graphics_for osx,linux
# Which non-bootloader tools to show on the tools line, and in what
# order to display them:
# shell - the EFI shell (requires external program; see rEFInd
# documentation for details)
# gptsync - the (dangerous) gptsync.efi utility (requires external
# program; see rEFInd documentation for details)
# apple_recovery - boots the Apple Recovery HD partition, if present
# mok_tool - makes available the Machine Owner Key (MOK) maintenance
# tool, MokManager.efi, used on Secure Boot systems
# about - an "about this program" option
# exit - a tag to exit from rEFInd
# shutdown - shuts down the computer (a bug causes this to reboot
# EFI systems)
# reboot - a tag to reboot the computer
# Default is shell,apple_recovery,mok_tool,about,shutdown,reboot
#showtools shell, mok_tool, about, reboot, exit
showtools shell, mok_tool, about, reboot, exit
# Directories in which to search for EFI drivers. These drivers can
# provide filesystem support, give access to hard disks on plug-in
# controllers, etc. In most cases none are needed, but if you add
# EFI drivers and you want rEFInd to automatically load them, you
# should specify one or more paths here. rEFInd always scans the
# "drivers" and "drivers_{arch}" subdirectories of its own installation
# directory (where "{arch}" is your architecture code); this option
# specifies ADDITIONAL directories to scan.
# Default is to scan no additional directories for EFI drivers
#scan_driver_dirs EFI/tools/drivers,drivers
scan_driver_dirs /boot/EFI/tools/drivers,drivers
# Which types of boot loaders to search, and in what order to display them:
# internal - internal EFI disk-based boot loaders
# external - external EFI disk-based boot loaders
# optical - EFI optical discs (CD, DVD, etc.)
# hdbios - BIOS disk-based boot loaders
# biosexternal - BIOS external boot loaders (USB, eSATA, etc.)
# cd - BIOS optical-disc boot loaders
# manual - use stanzas later in this configuration file
# Note that the legacy BIOS options require firmware support, which is
# not present on all computers.
# On UEFI PCs, default is internal,external,optical,manual
# On Macs, default is internal,hdbios,external,biosexternal,optical,cd,manual
#scanfor internal,external,optical,manual
scanfor internal,external,optical,manual
# Delay for the specified number of seconds before scanning disks.
# This can help some users who find that some of their disks
# (usually external or optical discs) aren't detected initially,
# but are detected after pressing Esc.
# The default is 0.
#scan_delay 5
# When scanning volumes for EFI boot loaders, rEFInd always looks for
# Mac OS X's and Microsoft Windows' boot loaders in their normal locations,
# and scans the root directory and every subdirectory of the /EFI directory
# for additional boot loaders, but it doesn't recurse into these directories.
# The also_scan_dirs token adds more directories to the scan list.
# Directories are specified relative to the volume's root directory. This
# option applies to ALL the volumes that rEFInd scans UNLESS you include
# a volume name and colon before the directory name, as in "myvol:/somedir"
# to scan the somedir directory only on the filesystem named myvol. If a
# specified directory doesn't exist, it's ignored (no error condition
# results). The default is to scan the "boot" directory in addition to
# various hard-coded directories.
#also_scan_dirs boot,ESP2:EFI/linux/kernels
# Partitions to omit from scans. You must specify a volume by its
# label, which you can obtain in an EFI shell by typing "vol", from
# Linux by typing "blkid /dev/{devicename}", or by examining the
# disk's label in various OSes' file browsers.
# The default is "Recovery HD".
#dont_scan_volumes "Recovery HD"
# Directories that should NOT be scanned for boot loaders. By default,
# rEFInd doesn't scan its own directory or the EFI/tools directory.
# You can "blacklist" additional directories with this option, which
# takes a list of directory names as options. You might do this to
# keep EFI/boot/bootx64.efi out of the menu if that's a duplicate of
# another boot loader or to exclude a directory that holds drivers
# or non-bootloader utilities provided by a hardware manufacturer. If
# a directory is listed both here and in also_scan_dirs, dont_scan_dirs
# takes precedence. Note that this blacklist applies to ALL the
# filesystems that rEFInd scans, not just the ESP, unless you precede
# the directory name by a filesystem name, as in "myvol:EFI/somedir"
# to exclude EFI/somedir from the scan on the myvol volume but not on
# other volumes.
#dont_scan_dirs ESP:/EFI/boot,EFI/Dell
# Files that should NOT be included as EFI boot loaders (on the
# first line of the display). If you're using a boot loader that
# relies on support programs or drivers that are installed alongside
# the main binary or if you want to "blacklist" certain loaders by
# name rather than location, use this option. Note that this will
# NOT prevent certain binaries from showing up in the second-row
# set of tools. Most notably, MokManager.efi is in this blacklist,
# but will show up as a tool if present in certain directories. You
# can control the tools row with the showtools token.
# The default is shim.efi,TextMode.efi,ebounce.efi,GraphicsConsole.efi,MokManager.efi,HashTool.efi,HashTool-signed.efi
#dont_scan_files shim.efi,MokManager.efi
# Scan for Linux kernels that lack a ".efi" filename extension. This is
# useful for better integration with Linux distributions that provide
# kernels with EFI stub loaders but that don't give those kernels filenames
# that end in ".efi", particularly if the kernels are stored on a
# filesystem that the EFI can read. When uncommented, this option causes
# all files in scanned directories with names that begin with "vmlinuz"
# or "bzImage" to be included as loaders, even if they lack ".efi"
# extensions. The drawback to this option is that it can pick up kernels
# that lack EFI stub loader support and other files. Passing this option
# a "0" value causes kernels without ".efi" extensions to NOT be scanned;
# passing it alone or with any other value causes all kernels to be scanned.
# Default is to NOT scan for kernels without ".efi" extensions.
scan_all_linux_kernels
# Set the maximum number of tags that can be displayed on the screen at
# any time. If more loaders are discovered than this value, rEFInd shows
# a subset in a scrolling list. If this value is set too high for the
# screen to handle, it's reduced to the value that the screen can manage.
# If this value is set to 0 (the default), it's adjusted to the number
# that the screen can handle.
#max_tags 0
# Set the default menu selection. The available arguments match the
# keyboard accelerators available within rEFInd. You may select the
# default loader using:
# - A digit between 1 and 9, in which case the Nth loader in the menu
# will be the default.
# - Any substring that corresponds to a portion of the loader's title
# (usually the OS's name or boot loader's path).
#default_selection 1
default_selection "vmlinuz-linux"
# Include a secondary configuration file within this one. This secondary
# file is loaded as if its options appeared at the point of the "include"
# token itself, so if you want to override a setting in the main file,
# the secondary file must be referenced AFTER the setting you want to
# override. Note that the secondary file may NOT load a tertiary file.
#include manual.conf
# Sample manual configuration stanzas. Each begins with the "menuentry"
# keyword followed by a name that's to appear in the menu (use quotes
# if you want the name to contain a space) and an open curly brace
# ("{"). Each entry ends with a close curly brace ("}"). Common
# keywords within each stanza include:
# volume - identifies the filesystem from which subsequent files
# are loaded. You can specify the volume by label or by
# a number followed by a colon (as in "0:" for the first
# filesystem or "1:" for the second).
# loader - identifies the boot loader file
# initrd - Specifies an initial RAM disk file
# icon - specifies a custom boot loader icon
# ostype - OS type code to determine boot options available by
# pressing Insert. Valid values are "MacOS", "Linux",
# "Windows", and "XOM". Case-sensitive.
# graphics - set to "on" to enable graphics-mode boot (useful
# mainly for MacOS) or "off" for text-mode boot.
# Default is auto-detected from loader filename.
# options - sets options to be passed to the boot loader; use
# quotes if more than one option should be passed or
# if any options use characters that might be changed
# by rEFInd parsing procedures (=, /, #, or tab).
# disabled - use alone or set to "yes" to disable this entry.
# Note that you can use either DOS/Windows/EFI-style backslashes (\)
# or Unix-style forward slashes (/) as directory separators. Either
# way, all file references are on the ESP from which rEFInd was
# launched.
# Use of quotes around parameters causes them to be interpreted as
# one keyword, and for parsing of special characters (spaces, =, /,
# and #) to be disabled. This is useful mainly with the "options"
# keyword. Use of quotes around parameters that specify filenames is
# permissible, but you must then use backslashes instead of slashes,
# except when you must pass a forward slash to the loader, as when
# passing a root= option to a Linux kernel.
# Below are several sample boot stanzas. All are disabled by default.
# Find one similar to what you need, copy it, remove the "disabled" line,
# and adjust the entries to suit your needs.
# A sample entry for a Linux 3.3 kernel with its new EFI boot stub
# support on a filesystem called "KERNELS". This entry includes
# Linux-specific boot options and specification of an initial RAM disk.
# Note uses of Linux-style forward slashes, even in the initrd
# specification. Also note that a leading slash is optional in file
# specifications.
menuentry Linux {
icon EFI/refind/icons/os_linux.icns
volume KERNELS
loader bzImage-3.3.0-rc7
initrd initrd-3.3.0.img
options "ro root=UUID=5f96cafa-e0a7-4057-b18f-fa709db5b837"
disabled
# A sample entry for loading Ubuntu using its standard name for
# its GRUB 2 boot loader. Note uses of Linux-style forward slashes
menuentry Ubuntu {
loader /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
icon /EFI/refined/icons/os_linux.icns
disabled
# A minimal ELILO entry, which probably offers nothing that
# auto-detection can't accomplish.
menuentry "ELILO" {
loader \EFI\elilo\elilo.efi
disabled
# Like the ELILO entry, this one offers nothing that auto-detection
# can't do; but you might use it if you want to disable auto-detection
# but still boot Windows....
menuentry "Windows 7" {
loader \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
disabled
# EFI shells are programs just like boot loaders, and can be
# launched in the same way. You can pass a shell the name of a
# script that it's to run on the "options" line. The script
# could initialize hardware and then launch an OS, or it could
# do something entirely different.
menuentry "Windows via shell script" {
icon \EFI\refind\icons\os_win.icns
loader \EFI\tools\shell.efi
options "fs0:\EFI\tools\launch_windows.nsh"
disabled
# Mac OS is normally detected and run automatically; however,
# if you want to do something unusual, a manual boot stanza may
# be the way to do it. This one does nothing very unusual, but
# it may serve as a starting point. Note that you'll almost
# certainly need to change the "volume" line for this example
# to work.
menuentry "My Mac OS X" {
icon \EFI\refind\icons\os_mac.icns
volume "OS X boot"
loader \System\Library\CoreServices\boot.efi
disabled
cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
# <file system> <dir> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
# /dev/sda2
UUID=7b92a840-4747-43b7-b2cf-02cbf92afce7 / ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 1
# /dev/sda4
UUID=72f64fd4-a3f1-424c-8fe3-cdf7751a84e0 /home ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 2
# /dev/sda1
# UUID=5447-7409 /boot vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 2
UUID=5447-7409 /boot vfat noatime 0 2
# /dev/sda3
UUID=1e11bea5-41db-4969-a8fa-a461734b71ac none swap defaults 0 0
This is a clean install using April 01 ISO with minimal or no modifications. I have tried to follow wiki as precisely as possible. I am not sure what I am missing. Thanks.
EDIT1: Updated and cleaned the post to better reflect current structure and added /etc/fstab.
EDIT2: @swordfish Removed /boot/EFI/arch.
Last edited by donniezazen (2013-04-04 06:37:07)

I used March ISO instead of April ISO and it worked flawlessly. There is some problem with April ISO where efibootmgr and UEFI Shell1/2 fail with ASSERT_EFI_ERROR (status = device error).
I have removed both /boot/EFI/boot and /boot/EFI/arch. I now have two entries one on vmlinuz-linux on 1024 Fat 32 partition which works and second one boot/vmlinuz-linux on 20G / partition which fails and takes me to rootfs. Also refind isn't showing UEFI shells that I have in /boot/EFI/tools/Shells.
ls -R /boot
/boot:
EFI initramfs-linux-fallback.img initramfs-linux.img refind_linux.conf vmlinuz-linux
/boot/EFI:
drivers refind tools
/boot/EFI/drivers:
ext2_x64.efi ext4_x64.efi hfs_x64.efi iso9660_x64.efi reiserfs_x64.efi
/boot/EFI/refind:
icons refind.conf refind_x64.efi
/boot/EFI/refind/icons:
### Icons
/boot/EFI/tools:
Shell.efi
# refind.conf
# Configuration file for the rEFInd boot menu
# Timeout in seconds for the main menu screen. Setting the timeout to 0
# disables automatic booting (i.e., no timeout).
timeout 5
# Hide user interface elements for personal preference or to increase
# security:
# banner - the rEFInd title banner (built-in or loaded via "banner")
# label - boot option text label in the menu
# singleuser - remove the submenu options to boot Mac OS X in single-user
# or verbose modes; affects ONLY MacOS X
# safemode - remove the submenu option to boot Mac OS X in "safe mode"
# hwtest - the submenu option to run Apple's hardware test
# arrows - scroll arrows on the OS selection tag line
# hints - brief command summary in the menu
# editor - the options editor (+, F2, or Insert on boot options menu)
# all - all of the above
# Default is none of these (all elements active)
#hideui singleuser
#hideui all
# Set the name of a subdirectory in which icons are stored. Icons must
# have the same names they have in the standard directory. The directory
# name is specified relative to the main rEFInd binary's directory. If
# an icon can't be found in the specified directory, an attempt is made
# to load it from the default directory; thus, you can replace just some
# icons in your own directory and rely on the default for others.
# Default is "icons".
#icons_dir myicons
# Use a custom title banner instead of the rEFInd icon and name. The file
# path is relative to the directory where refind.efi is located. The color
# in the top left corner of the image is used as the background color
# for the menu screens. Currently uncompressed BMP images with color
# depths of 24, 8, 4 or 1 bits are supported, as well as PNG images.
#banner hostname.bmp
#banner mybanner.png
# Custom images for the selection background. There is a big one (144 x 144)
# for the OS icons, and a small one (64 x 64) for the function icons in the
# second row. If only a small image is given, that one is also used for
# the big icons by stretching it in the middle. If only a big one is given,
# the built-in default will be used for the small icons.
# Like the banner option above, these options take a filename of an
# uncompressed BMP image file with a color depth of 24, 8, 4, or 1 bits,
# or a PNG image. The PNG format is required if you need transparency
# support (to let you "see through" to a full-screen banner).
#selection_big selection-big.bmp
#selection_small selection-small.bmp
# Set the font to be used for all textual displays in graphics mode.
# The font must be a PNG file with alpha channel transparency. It must
# contain ASCII characters 32-126 (space through tilde), inclusive, plus
# a glyph to be displayed in place of characters outside of this range,
# for a total of 96 glyphs. Only monospaced fonts are supported. Fonts
# may be of any size, although large fonts can produce display
# irregularities.
# The default is rEFInd's built-in font, Luxi Mono Regular 12 point.
#font myfont.png
# Use text mode only. When enabled, this option forces rEFInd into text mode.
# Passing this option a "0" value causes graphics mode to be used. Pasing
# it no value or any non-0 value causes text mode to be used.
# Default is to use graphics mode.
#textonly
textonly
# Set the EFI text mode to be used for textual displays. This option
# takes a single digit that refers to a mode number. Mode 0 is normally
# 80x25, 1 is sometimes 80x50, and higher numbers are system-specific
# modes. Mode 1024 is a special code that tells rEFInd to not set the
# text mode; it uses whatever was in use when the program was launched.
# If you specify an invalid mode, rEFInd pauses during boot to inform
# you of valid modes.
# CAUTION: On VirtualBox, and perhaps on some real computers, specifying
# a text mode and uncommenting the "textonly" option while NOT specifying
# a resolution can result in an unusable display in the booted OS.
# Default is 1024 (no change)
#textmode 2
textmode 1024
# Set the screen's video resolution. Pass this option either:
# * two values, corresponding to the X and Y resolutions
# * one value, corresponding to a GOP (UEFI) video mode
# Note that not all resolutions are supported. On UEFI systems, passing
# an incorrect value results in a message being shown on the screen to
# that effect, along with a list of supported modes. On EFI 1.x systems
# (e.g., Macintoshes), setting an incorrect mode silently fails. On both
# types of systems, setting an incorrect resolution results in the default
# resolution being used. A resolution of 1024x768 usually works, but higher
# values often don't.
# Default is "0 0" (use the system default resolution, usually 800x600).
#resolution 1024 768
#resolution 3
resolution 1024 768
# Launch specified OSes in graphics mode. By default, rEFInd switches
# to text mode and displays basic pre-launch information when launching
# all OSes except OS X. Using graphics mode can produce a more seamless
# transition, but displays no information, which can make matters
# difficult if you must debug a problem. Also, on at least one known
# computer, using graphics mode prevents a crash when using the Linux
# kernel's EFI stub loader. You can specify an empty list to boot all
# OSes in text mode.
# Valid options:
# osx - Mac OS X
# linux - A Linux kernel with EFI stub loader
# elilo - The ELILO boot loader
# grub - The GRUB (Legacy or 2) boot loader
# windows - Microsoft Windows
# Default value: osx
#use_graphics_for osx,linux
# Which non-bootloader tools to show on the tools line, and in what
# order to display them:
# shell - the EFI shell (requires external program; see rEFInd
# documentation for details)
# gptsync - the (dangerous) gptsync.efi utility (requires external
# program; see rEFInd documentation for details)
# apple_recovery - boots the Apple Recovery HD partition, if present
# mok_tool - makes available the Machine Owner Key (MOK) maintenance
# tool, MokManager.efi, used on Secure Boot systems
# about - an "about this program" option
# exit - a tag to exit from rEFInd
# shutdown - shuts down the computer (a bug causes this to reboot
# EFI systems)
# reboot - a tag to reboot the computer
# Default is shell,apple_recovery,mok_tool,about,shutdown,reboot
#showtools shell, mok_tool, about, reboot, exit
showtools shell, about, reboot, exit
# Directories in which to search for EFI drivers. These drivers can
# provide filesystem support, give access to hard disks on plug-in
# controllers, etc. In most cases none are needed, but if you add
# EFI drivers and you want rEFInd to automatically load them, you
# should specify one or more paths here. rEFInd always scans the
# "drivers" and "drivers_{arch}" subdirectories of its own installation
# directory (where "{arch}" is your architecture code); this option
# specifies ADDITIONAL directories to scan.
# Default is to scan no additional directories for EFI drivers
#scan_driver_dirs EFI/tools/drivers,drivers
scan_driver_dirs EFI/tools/drivers,drivers
# Which types of boot loaders to search, and in what order to display them:
# internal - internal EFI disk-based boot loaders
# external - external EFI disk-based boot loaders
# optical - EFI optical discs (CD, DVD, etc.)
# hdbios - BIOS disk-based boot loaders
# biosexternal - BIOS external boot loaders (USB, eSATA, etc.)
# cd - BIOS optical-disc boot loaders
# manual - use stanzas later in this configuration file
# Note that the legacy BIOS options require firmware support, which is
# not present on all computers.
# On UEFI PCs, default is internal,external,optical,manual
# On Macs, default is internal,hdbios,external,biosexternal,optical,cd,manual
#scanfor internal,external,optical,manual
scanfor internal,external,optical,manual
# Delay for the specified number of seconds before scanning disks.
# This can help some users who find that some of their disks
# (usually external or optical discs) aren't detected initially,
# but are detected after pressing Esc.
# The default is 0.
#scan_delay 5
# When scanning volumes for EFI boot loaders, rEFInd always looks for
# Mac OS X's and Microsoft Windows' boot loaders in their normal locations,
# and scans the root directory and every subdirectory of the /EFI directory
# for additional boot loaders, but it doesn't recurse into these directories.
# The also_scan_dirs token adds more directories to the scan list.
# Directories are specified relative to the volume's root directory. This
# option applies to ALL the volumes that rEFInd scans UNLESS you include
# a volume name and colon before the directory name, as in "myvol:/somedir"
# to scan the somedir directory only on the filesystem named myvol. If a
# specified directory doesn't exist, it's ignored (no error condition
# results). The default is to scan the "boot" directory in addition to
# various hard-coded directories.
#also_scan_dirs boot,ESP2:EFI/linux/kernels
# Partitions to omit from scans. You must specify a volume by its
# label, which you can obtain in an EFI shell by typing "vol", from
# Linux by typing "blkid /dev/{devicename}", or by examining the
# disk's label in various OSes' file browsers.
# The default is "Recovery HD".
#dont_scan_volumes "Recovery HD"
# Directories that should NOT be scanned for boot loaders. By default,
# rEFInd doesn't scan its own directory or the EFI/tools directory.
# You can "blacklist" additional directories with this option, which
# takes a list of directory names as options. You might do this to
# keep EFI/boot/bootx64.efi out of the menu if that's a duplicate of
# another boot loader or to exclude a directory that holds drivers
# or non-bootloader utilities provided by a hardware manufacturer. If
# a directory is listed both here and in also_scan_dirs, dont_scan_dirs
# takes precedence. Note that this blacklist applies to ALL the
# filesystems that rEFInd scans, not just the ESP, unless you precede
# the directory name by a filesystem name, as in "myvol:EFI/somedir"
# to exclude EFI/somedir from the scan on the myvol volume but not on
# other volumes.
#dont_scan_dirs ESP:/EFI/boot,EFI/Dell
# Files that should NOT be included as EFI boot loaders (on the
# first line of the display). If you're using a boot loader that
# relies on support programs or drivers that are installed alongside
# the main binary or if you want to "blacklist" certain loaders by
# name rather than location, use this option. Note that this will
# NOT prevent certain binaries from showing up in the second-row
# set of tools. Most notably, MokManager.efi is in this blacklist,
# but will show up as a tool if present in certain directories. You
# can control the tools row with the showtools token.
# The default is shim.efi,TextMode.efi,ebounce.efi,GraphicsConsole.efi,MokManager.efi,HashTool.efi,HashTool-signed.efi
#dont_scan_files shim.efi,MokManager.efi
# Scan for Linux kernels that lack a ".efi" filename extension. This is
# useful for better integration with Linux distributions that provide
# kernels with EFI stub loaders but that don't give those kernels filenames
# that end in ".efi", particularly if the kernels are stored on a
# filesystem that the EFI can read. When uncommented, this option causes
# all files in scanned directories with names that begin with "vmlinuz"
# or "bzImage" to be included as loaders, even if they lack ".efi"
# extensions. The drawback to this option is that it can pick up kernels
# that lack EFI stub loader support and other files. Passing this option
# a "0" value causes kernels without ".efi" extensions to NOT be scanned;
# passing it alone or with any other value causes all kernels to be scanned.
# Default is to NOT scan for kernels without ".efi" extensions.
scan_all_linux_kernels
# Set the maximum number of tags that can be displayed on the screen at
# any time. If more loaders are discovered than this value, rEFInd shows
# a subset in a scrolling list. If this value is set too high for the
# screen to handle, it's reduced to the value that the screen can manage.
# If this value is set to 0 (the default), it's adjusted to the number
# that the screen can handle.
#max_tags 0
# Set the default menu selection. The available arguments match the
# keyboard accelerators available within rEFInd. You may select the
# default loader using:
# - A digit between 1 and 9, in which case the Nth loader in the menu
# will be the default.
# - Any substring that corresponds to a portion of the loader's title
# (usually the OS's name or boot loader's path).
#default_selection 1
# Include a secondary configuration file within this one. This secondary
# file is loaded as if its options appeared at the point of the "include"
# token itself, so if you want to override a setting in the main file,
# the secondary file must be referenced AFTER the setting you want to
# override. Note that the secondary file may NOT load a tertiary file.
#include manual.conf
# Sample manual configuration stanzas. Each begins with the "menuentry"
# keyword followed by a name that's to appear in the menu (use quotes
# if you want the name to contain a space) and an open curly brace
# ("{"). Each entry ends with a close curly brace ("}"). Common
# keywords within each stanza include:
# volume - identifies the filesystem from which subsequent files
# are loaded. You can specify the volume by label or by
# a number followed by a colon (as in "0:" for the first
# filesystem or "1:" for the second).
# loader - identifies the boot loader file
# initrd - Specifies an initial RAM disk file
# icon - specifies a custom boot loader icon
# ostype - OS type code to determine boot options available by
# pressing Insert. Valid values are "MacOS", "Linux",
# "Windows", and "XOM". Case-sensitive.
# graphics - set to "on" to enable graphics-mode boot (useful
# mainly for MacOS) or "off" for text-mode boot.
# Default is auto-detected from loader filename.
# options - sets options to be passed to the boot loader; use
# quotes if more than one option should be passed or
# if any options use characters that might be changed
# by rEFInd parsing procedures (=, /, #, or tab).
# disabled - use alone or set to "yes" to disable this entry.
# Note that you can use either DOS/Windows/EFI-style backslashes (\)
# or Unix-style forward slashes (/) as directory separators. Either
# way, all file references are on the ESP from which rEFInd was
# launched.
# Use of quotes around parameters causes them to be interpreted as
# one keyword, and for parsing of special characters (spaces, =, /,
# and #) to be disabled. This is useful mainly with the "options"
# keyword. Use of quotes around parameters that specify filenames is
# permissible, but you must then use backslashes instead of slashes,
# except when you must pass a forward slash to the loader, as when
# passing a root= option to a Linux kernel.
# Below are several sample boot stanzas. All are disabled by default.
# Find one similar to what you need, copy it, remove the "disabled" line,
# and adjust the entries to suit your needs.
# A sample entry for a Linux 3.3 kernel with its new EFI boot stub
# support on a filesystem called "KERNELS". This entry includes
# Linux-specific boot options and specification of an initial RAM disk.
# Note uses of Linux-style forward slashes, even in the initrd
# specification. Also note that a leading slash is optional in file
# specifications.
menuentry Linux {
icon EFI/refind/icons/os_linux.icns
volume KERNELS
loader bzImage-3.3.0-rc7
initrd initrd-3.3.0.img
options "ro root=UUID=5f96cafa-e0a7-4057-b18f-fa709db5b837"
disabled
# A sample entry for loading Ubuntu using its standard name for
# its GRUB 2 boot loader. Note uses of Linux-style forward slashes
menuentry Ubuntu {
loader /EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi
icon /EFI/refined/icons/os_linux.icns
disabled
# A minimal ELILO entry, which probably offers nothing that
# auto-detection can't accomplish.
menuentry "ELILO" {
loader \EFI\elilo\elilo.efi
disabled
# Like the ELILO entry, this one offers nothing that auto-detection
# can't do; but you might use it if you want to disable auto-detection
# but still boot Windows....
menuentry "Windows 7" {
loader \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
disabled
# EFI shells are programs just like boot loaders, and can be
# launched in the same way. You can pass a shell the name of a
# script that it's to run on the "options" line. The script
# could initialize hardware and then launch an OS, or it could
# do something entirely different.
menuentry "Windows via shell script" {
icon \EFI\refind\icons\os_win.icns
loader \EFI\tools\shell.efi
options "fs0:\EFI\tools\launch_windows.nsh"
disabled
# Mac OS is normally detected and run automatically; however,
# if you want to do something unusual, a manual boot stanza may
# be the way to do it. This one does nothing very unusual, but
# it may serve as a starting point. Note that you'll almost
# certainly need to change the "volume" line for this example
# to work.
menuentry "My Mac OS X" {
icon \EFI\refind\icons\os_mac.icns
volume "OS X boot"
loader \System\Library\CoreServices\boot.efi
disabled
Thanks for suggesting to try older ISO.
UPDATE:- Most recent ls -R /boot and my refind.conf. Reading over Rod Smith's rEFInd documentation has helped me clean up a little more and set up a good boot manager with automatic kernel detection and shell. I do want to get rid of drivers list that shows itself up along with kernel. Next is to tackle menu entry. Thanks.
Last edited by donniezazen (2013-04-04 06:43:16)

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