Search Color Book in Photoshop: Broken

PANTONE + Color Bridge Coated-V2 and several other books are not functioning as they should.
In the bottom of the Photoshop Color Libraries box it says....
Type a color name to select it in the color list.......NOT!
Several Color Libraries are not searchable! What a HUGE bug for our Studio!
ADOBE vs PANTONE problem?! Hmmmm nobody seems to know?!
It has been a year now and still no fix!
paul

No, the spot color books are LAB based, because they represent a specific spot color.
The CMYK based books are CMYK based, because they represent specific CMYK percentages.
If you want an accurate CMYK percentage for a spot color, then you need to know the exact press condition you will use and convert from the LAB specified spot color to your exact press condition (CMYK profile).
Using a pre-baked conversion from spot color to CMYK will only work if your press conditions exactly match the conditions used by the book author (which they rarely do).
Photoshop's color books come directly from Pantone, with a little cleanup and testing done by Adobe (because there is always a mistake or fifteen).
Yes, you need to check with PANTONE to see if they have fixed this issue in the libraries they create.
If not, you need to press them to fix the issue in the libraries they create.

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You're right - adding green and orange ink in Hexachrome doesn't
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The complete diagram is threedimensional. A shown color is not just
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Could not complete your request because specified color book could not be found

I have seen this question on here before but the problem was never dealt with. From what I can tell this is an issue when a specific color from a color book is applied to a channel in Photoshop as a spot color and when the same file is opened on another computer with an instance of photoshop that doesn't share the same color book that said colors were pulled from, it simply won't open. Now I have been to countless pages that stated that I can simply download the new color books such as the Adobe Blog New PANTONE libraries but when I go to the link it suggests it just gives me some pantone color manager which after trying it for 30 days, did not download any missing color books. It seems to be the new pantone + libraries that I need in order to open these files. I also called pantone themselves to see if they could give me an answer so hopefully between here and there someone somewhere can get me those color books i need.
They are apparently free and easy to download. I will probably feel like a moron when someone reveals something obvious I have overlooked but at the very least I just want this problem solved.
thank you for your time.

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They are apparently free and easy to download. I will probably feel like a moron when someone reveals something obvious I have overlooked but at the very least I just want this problem solved.
thank you for your time.

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Hello
I have searched high and low and cannot find a link to download previous pantone color books before Adobe "brilliantly" decided to mess with everyone by only having the pantone+ books. Which have no use for me now as I still have clients that refer to the older books.
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I am incredibly annoyed by this STUPID DECISION ADOBE MADE!
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Okay. I fixed it.
Reason why I asked is because in that thread, it gave the workaround links, which was useless without the color books themselves.
After calling up on buddies, I found someone with Cs5 and got the books from him and added to my library and BOOM it was fixed. That is what I was asking.
Thanks. I solved this one for me.

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oh. then you are requesting for the old pantone books?
here you go
Dropbox - pantones.zip
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Why can't I find certain Pantone plus colors in Illustrator CS6 color books?

Why can't I find certain Pantone plus colors in Illustrator CS6 color books? For example I want to use PMS 2296C, but it is not coming up in the color swatch book in Illustrator.

Thanks!
I actually just came across the same thing in the meantime.
And it worked!
If you bought the physical Pantone books, there is a registration/serial number on the back. You can go to Pantone and register it (https://www.pantone.com/pages/MYP_myPantone/mypProductRegistration.aspx)
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I create a new document in CC (the new document). From the old document I copy the Pantone 519U square and paste it in the new document. The resulting square in the new document is a washed out purple. The new document square converts to C:57.27% M:68.83% Y:35.06% K:13.06%.
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I see that you are having issues with your connection to the iBooks Store. Here is an article with some troubleshooting steps that will be relevant to your issue, even though the article was written for issues with the iTunes Store:
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