Second hand license legal?

Dear
I've recently found a company willing to sell their CS3 software to me (which I'll be using for commercial use). However, they've lost their purchase records and thus will be unable to transfer the registration to my account (which is normally the way to legally transfer a license).
They however offered a written transfer of license (a document which confirms I'll now be the legal owner of the license rather than them), and have already uninstalled/deactivated all software related to this license on their systems.
My question is, if I would go with this, am I than using the software legally? Or is a correct registration transfer absolutely required to operate Adobe software legally?
Thank you for your answer!

That may involve a lot of hocuspocus and escalating the support case up to the board of directors... *lol*. You just have to be patient about the matter. It's not impossible, but may require a lot of paperwork. I'm sure it's legit, but despite their best intentions, registering this software to your Adobe ID is something you cannot circumvent. It may not be an issue now, but it will be when you upgrade one day...
Mylenium

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