Securing old 10.4 xserve with hot spare - new xserve does not boot with 10.

dear you,
I am in the murky situation of having to secure a single, non redundant productive scenario which is running on one xserve (model identifier 1,1; dual core 3GHz; boot-rom XS11.0080.B00). due to several reasons the server needs to be cloned, so that a separate xserve with a daily cloned boot-device can take over if things go south with the productive one.
unfortunately the newly bought xserve quadcore single 2.26GHz refuses to boot from the image taken from the production machine. tried to downgrade firmware, did not help. new machine crashes during startup (empty grey screen).
anybody knows any help? moving the production machine to 10.5 or newer is NO option.
an option could be two elder xserves I have here additionally. how do I find out which xserve model will boot with an image from the production server?
thank you all for any idea in advance,
thaijay
Message was edited by: thaijay
Sorry, failed to let you know the productive server is running 10.4.11. please let me know which other details I can post/will help us with this issue

This is never going to work via cloning.
The server you're cloning has to be one of the original Intel-based XServes. Each successive revision adds requirements to the OS to the point where they have a minimum OS version. In the case of the latest generation servers, they won't run on anything earlier than 10.5.6 (IIRC). To put it simply - 10.4 doesn't know how to drive the latest generation hardware.
In any case, cloning is rarely a good idea for servers anyway. You would do better to look at the services you're running and look at backup/failover plans for them rather than trying to clone the entire server. Many services such as Open Directory, DNS, MySQL and more have built-in replication systems that are designed to replicate their data across many machines. Other client-facing services such as AFP, web, FTP, etc. can be set to failover (where the second machine takes over the service when the primary machine fails).
Such replication/failover techniques are far more reliable than a daily clone, and they're also faster. Replicated data could be maintained up to the minute, compared to a day old data if you need to boot up the clone.
If you really, really want to go the clone route, then reverse the roles - setup the new machine as the primary server with all the services and clone this machine to create your failover system. 10.5.6 will run the old/original XServe, it's just a matter of updating your services to the newer version.

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http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/976
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11255905&#11255905
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