Security Update 2008-006 STILL breaks my Firewire

I previously posted this:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1713147
My PowerBook G4, since the latest Tiger update, has Firewire die after one use.
The solution (reset the Firewire chip set) works; but the Firewire chip has required reset now three times. It works again every time I reset then goes down when I want to use it the next time.
Please help.

Hi Eddie,
Is this still with the iPod? Does it still charge? Does it still do it if it doesn't need a charge?
Do you have another FW device/Drive to test with to see if it conks out your FW port?
Wouldn't happen to have a FW Hub laying around would you?
Another FW Cable to test with?

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Something happened after install security update 2008-006(PPC)

Hi there,
I have just installed the security update 2008-006(ppc) for my old powerbook, G4 1.5Mhz. Now every time when i go to network in the system preferences, i immediately got this message "Your network setting have been changed by another application" No matter how many "OK" i clicked, this message will kept appeared. I tried to restart my powerbook, but the powerbook responded that the system preferences have cancelled the restart. Can only force quit the system preferences. I can still connect to the network, just that if i go to any new places with new network setting, i will not be able to change the network setup in my powerbook.
Before i install the upgrade patch, this never happened, so i am assuming it was because of the patch. Can anyone help me? thanks.

This seems to work also...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8164180&#8164180

Security Update 2008-006 Broke My iMac

After installing the most recent security update (2008-006) my computer is absolutely crawling to the point where it is unusable. I'm also seeing the Network Settings changed message when I get to the system preferences after waiting 10 min between mouse clicks and watching the dreaded beachball spin away. I have booted from an external drive and reinstalled the update, repaired permissions, run apple jack, disk warrior and drive genius with no improvement. How can Apple release something that would absolutely destroy my computer? Is archive and install my only option? Will Apple release a fix for this? I s it worth the wait for the next security update. I really would rather not reinstall my system. Suggestions? Help please?

How can Apple release something that would absolutely destroy my computer?
They can't, and didn't.
Is archive and install my only option?
Might be, or if you simply restored the backup you made prior to installing the update. Though an archive and install may not totally overwrite the security issues. It suggests you have some data files that are corrupted as a result of using Applejack in the past. Such utilities should never be used without a backup.
Will Apple release a fix for this?
Speculation on this board is strictly prohibited. Please read the Terms of Use on the right. Your question requires speculation.
Is it worth the wait for the next security update.
No. Because if one issue happens directly following a security update, chances are it will continue happening until you find the software that doesn't work well with security updates, or the damaged preference or cache file that's doing the problem.
You can sort of backtrack but you should do the following if you have no backup.
1. Clone backup your machine twice*:
http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html
2. Erase and install your operating system using the retail installer, or installer that came with your Mac (whichever is newer).
3. Run the combo update that brought you where you were before.
4. Repair permissions.
5. Run the security update.
6. Repair permissions again.
7. Restore your user data to the appropriate folders as outlined in my backup FAQ before once you have verified none of the built-in software is causing an issue. If there is an issue with the built-in software, it says that perhaps your router is not properly configured to understand Apple's security updates and needs an updated firmware or replacement with one that is known to work with the system.
- * Links to my pages may give me compensation.
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Is there a way to back out Security Update 2008-006???!!?

This @#$%^! thing is making me insane. Airport works for like 3-5 min then locks up. I tried the copy/del preferences and that didn't work.
Can some one tell me how to back out the patch? >:-(
Thanks!

Thank you BDAqua! Your solution worked and was much more helpful than Apple's phone support wipe and reinstall instructions.
I've got to rant for a minute here...
This is the kind of crap I've gotten used to from Microsoft (having worked in IT for over 21 years), but even THEY can back out a patch (99% of the time) without requiring you to reinstall the OS!!
I expect more from Apple, especially since OSX is based on Linux. Haven't any of you Code Monkeys heard of patch and patch -R???! I mean what the fur??? Hey Apple OSX developers GET A CLUE and put the patch facilities back or enable/post instructions for us use them to remove bad patches if needed!! It would avoid making your loyal customers so angry they could scream!!
And what is with leaving this thing (Security Update 2008-006 Intel) available for D/L and install when your are actively receiving reports of problems??!!? Do you think I care "It's not happening to everyone"??!!!?? It's happening to enough people for there to be a dozen threads on the forums!!!! Someone from Apple wanna explain that to me?
So, after BDAqua's kind help, and 1.5 hrs work, my MackBook is now stable and may AirPort card is working. After that little tryst I bailed on Tiger completely and upgraded to Leopard.
A big THANK YOU to BDAqua again, and a big raspberry to the OSX and patch teams.

Can someone tell me if Apple has resolved Security Update 2008-006 Issue?

Hi, I'm running Tiger (10.4.11) on a PowerBook G4. I just upgraded to iTunes 9. Unfortunately, I cannot access the iTunes store unless I upgrade Safari from my current version (3.1.2) to a newer version (4.0.3 or better). I just downloaded the installer for 4.0.4 and I can't install that until I install the latest security update (currently, 2009-005).
Now, I have been reluctant to install security updates ever since 2008-006 proved to be a disaster. You might recall the issue people had with the update screwing up their network settings (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1712387&start=0&tstart=0). When I had this issue the only way that I could solve this was to do a clean install of my OS. I do not want to have to go through this again. Can someone tell me if Apple has resolved this issue? If they haven't, could someone tell me where I can get the previous version of iTunes so I can install that?
I refuse to install another security update until I know that this problem has been solved.
Thank you.

In my humble opinion: yes, they have fixed the problem. As I posted here (http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2292768&tstart=30), I had also declined all the updates since 2008-007 (and the following Quicktime update as well) caused a piece of software that I rely on to stop working. I recently did do the install of 2009-005, Quicktime, and all the other updates, and the result was a system that works perfectly. And quite frankly, I was amazed.
Between network settings, Finder crashing, and several other misbehaviors, a couple of the updates right around January 2009 did indeed cause heartburn for a number of people, as documented here- and more than a few of us quit accepting the updates as a result. I'm very happy that whatever the underlying causes for that misbehavior might have been, those problems appear to have been resolved since then...
So I'd have to weigh in with a "do a really good clone backup, and then go for it!" as well, based on my recent experience.
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Security Update 2008-006 (HT1222): Anyone Tried It?

Not gonna apply it yet because I'm finally getting things the way I want them.
Anyone know if it breaks anything?

All users of 10.4.x should contact Apple and claim about this issue (I sent an e-mail already, by the way).
On one side, it is dangerous not to install security updates, on the other side it is dangerous as well because Apple technicians seem not to be capable considering people modifying configuration files by hand.

Security update 2008 - 006 : cannot mount ext HD on startup

i see there hv been numerous issues with this update... i shd hv listened to good advice NOT to just allow auto-updates without checking first!
my problem with this latest update is that my ext HD (external but mounted inside) cannot be read on start up anymore...
also, none of my external storage disks can be read either! extremely frustrating - i've searched the forums and i guess from what i read, this silly security update thing cannot be reversed / undone?
is there any way to recover my ext HD without buying a recovery software?

Hi olilab, and a warm welcome to the forums!
Regarding re-install of tiger with the CD/DVD, will this somehow change any of my other settings, files, structure etc? I.e. is it safe to do the reinstall and not mess my system up in other ways?
Not if you carefully use the Archive and Install feature, which can give you a new OS, yet preserve your files and settings if you have enough room on your HD...
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120
And your HD is in perfect shape...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc that came with your computer, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Also, feel free to start a new topic if you need more help.

Security Update 2008-006 SHA 1 digest does not match posted value

: /usr/bin/openssl sha1 SecUpd2008-006PPC.dmg
SHA1(SecUpd2008-006PPC.dmg)= 7b3aed47dbad3d55d90d093a6fb7a81c34c22a2c
does not match the value:
61898bf315d04958aaf487bb92ba257d059a33ce
posted on the web page:
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/securityupdate2008006clientppc.html
I've downloaded the file more than once but I get the same SHA1 value each time. I get this value:
7b3aed47dbad3d55d90d093a6fb7a81c34c22a2c
The disk image mounts but I'm reluctant to install a security update (or anything else) that does match the posted SHA1 value.
Is the value posted on the web page wrong and the one I've gotten from the downloaded file correct or am I getting a corrupted/modified disk image?

Thanks for looking into this. As fas as I am concerned it is no corporate or school network. I have downloaded the file at home from my personal internet connection. This is a DSL connection that runs through a DSL router. My computer is connected directly to the router via ethernet cable. There is a firewall (packet filter) in place but nothing (that I know of) that modifies download files.
I have never had such problems before with this internet connection. And I have downloaded quite a lot of updates from Apple's web site with this connection and always checked the sha1 digest.
I just downloaded the security update at the company I am working for. So this is a corporate network. I got the same sha1 digest as before at home. Not sure if this helps.
Holger

Security Update 2008-006 broke Firewire mounting of 3rd Gen iPod

Updated overnight on my PowerBook G4. This morning my 3rd Gen iPod won't mount on the desktop. It will charge but not mount. Used my wife's USB dock connector and it mounted. I am upset. This is how I transfer files from home Mac to work Mac. Any suggestions?

First thing to do is reset the FW chip set on the mother board. Unfortunately, when you power down the computer there is always a bit of power still applied to the motherboard to keep things alive and this usually includes the ports to do stuff like detect when a device wants to wake up the computer. The downside of this is when a bus/port chipset goes into a weird state, locks up, etc., simply power cycling (shutdown & restart) the computer won't work.
So first thing to try is resetting the chipset and to do this you have to power down the computer and completely unplug the computer from the wall power (unplug the power cord to your Mac) & remove the battery. Also unplug everything from the Mac's ports (USB, FW, Ethernet, etc.) to make sure no parasitic power is still there to keep the chipset alive.
Now let it sit for a minute (give those big power caps in there time to discharge). Now reattach the battery, plug the power cord back in & start up the Mac. Now plug in the iPod and see if your FW ports work any better.
Best of luck!
Patrick
What to do if your computer won't recognize a FireWire or USB device
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1317?viewlocale=en_US

SOLUTION : Security Update 2008-006

http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8257240#8257240
cafon

I hope that works cafon, here's the link you meant I believe...
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8257238#8257238

Securtity Update 2008-006 failed, now volume does not meet the requirements

After observe by 15 minutes that the progress bar did not advance, I made restart. Now attempt to install the update manualy and the installer says "You cannot install Security Update 2008-006 (Intel) on this volume. This volume does not meet the requirements for this update." And the preferences of applied Software Update don't list the 2008-006.
Please help me. Thanks a lot.
RE:Király
Log in to an admin account and then try going to /Library/Receipts/boms and moving this file to the Desktop:
com.apple.pkg.update.security.2008.006.bom
Then try running Software Update again.
RE: Kijote
No, I don't have luck. The last receipt that I have its com.apple.pkg.update.security.2008.005.bom.
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Can you download the 10.5.5 combo, and reinstall it?

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Wow.

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Path: /usr/bin/ssh
Identifier: ssh
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: bash [541]
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OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.2 (9C31)
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Exception Codes: KERNPROTECTIONFAILURE at 0x0000000000001014
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1 ??? 0x0004c56e 0 + 312686
2 ??? 0x0004c7f7 0 + 313335
3 ??? 0x0004b070 0 + 307312
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edi: 0x0000101c esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbffff878 esp: 0xbffff850
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010286 eip: 0x0004c4e7 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
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0x902dd000 - 0x902ebffd libz.1.dylib ??? (???) <5ddd8539ae2ebfd8e7cc1c57525385c7> /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib
0x9038c000 - 0x903e9ffb libstdc++.6.dylib ??? (???) <04b812dcec670daa8b7d2852ab14be60> /usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib
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0x90a09000 - 0x90b41ff7 libicucore.A.dylib ??? (???) <afcea652ff2ec36885b2c81c57d06d4c> /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
0x90b42000 - 0x90d0dff7 com.apple.security 5.0.2 (33001) <0788969ffe7961153219be10786da436> /System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security
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0x92f7f000 - 0x92f86fe9 libgcc_s.1.dylib ??? (???) <f53c808e87d1184c0f9df63aef53ce0b> /usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib
0x940e9000 - 0x941c8fff libobjc.A.dylib ??? (???) <a53206274b6c2d42691f677863f379ae> /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
0x94466000 - 0x9446afff libmathCommon.A.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
0x954c9000 - 0x955fbfef com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.5.1 (476.10) <d5bed2688a5eea11a6dc3a3c5c17030e> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
0x95699000 - 0x957f8ff3 libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) <4899376234e55593b22fc370935f8cdf> /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0xfffe8000 - 0xfffebfff libobjc.A.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
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Security Update 2008-007; Mac pro; Leopard=lost internal HD

I just said yes to the security update 2008-007 on my Mac Pro, running Leopard (10.5.5). On restart, my internal 500GB Western Digital Hard Drive does not mount. This is the second time this has happened. About a month ago, after installing a security update (probably 2008-006 but I don't remember), that drive crashed, failed, would not mount. Western Digital replaced it. I don't use Time Machine but I do back up to external firewire drives. It took me a couple of weeks to tediously re-set-up my new WD 500GB like the old one. All was well until I just ran the Security Update 2008-007. On restart, the new WD500 is gone.
I am now looking at the various updates. I see there are ones for servers, for clients, and for Leopard. Is it possible one or the other is the right or wron one? Is there a way to tell what exactly happened?
To say the east, this is big time annoying and has left me very hesitant about accepting Apple's update recommendations.
Any help? Thanks

Yeah. I agree it's a stretch. So too did the Apple "specialist." He agreed it's unusual but felt that indeed I got two WD hard drives in a row that failed. He suggested they sent me a refurbished one after the first one crashed. On the phone with Western Digital, they didn't argue at all and the tech guy said, "they will ship me a better drive." Nice, huh? better than what? And why not better the first time. Anyway, they are honoring this as they did the first one. But my confidence in WD drives has dropped. And, in spite of the unlikliness of Apple updates causing the problem, I'm leery there as well.
Thanks for the tip on a method for updating. I'll follow it.

Unable to see PC's on network after Security Update 2008-005

I just updated our Tiger server with the latest security update 2008-005 and now none of the PC's can see the Workgroup or the server. In addition, the Macs can no longer see the PC's on the network. The PC's can connect to other computers if it was previously mapped. However if we try to connect to the Workgroup, it is denied. Previously one PC's with the Windows Firewall turned on blocked all the PC's from seeing the Workgroup however it did not block Macs. This time viewing PC's is blocked completely and there are no PC's windows firewalls running. The macs can still see other macs and the servers (all Xserve's).

Issue resolved. It had nothing to do with the update. When I restarted the server it chose an NT computer on the network as the Master Browser. The resolution was to turn off the NT computer, restart the computer and let it pick up one of the 2000 or XP computers as the Master Browser. That worked.

What next.... (Security Update 2008-003)

Greetings all,
I know that there are numerous threads here already about this problem that many of us seem to be having. Mine is similar so I will try to explain with as much detail as I can. Please read the whole post because I have followed most if not all of the advice I've found in replies to this topic and nothing has worked thus far. My desktop (Gigabit Ethernet G4 running 10.4.11) is the unit with the problems, my laptop (15" Powerbook running 10.4) is running fine and has pulled field medic duty in trying to fix this. I've been able to successfully Target Disk the desktop from the laptop and all my files are still there, the bugger just won't finish starting up. I explain in detail below.
So the other night I downloaded and installed the Security Update 2008-003 via the Software Update pane. All went well, no error messages or hiccups. I restarted the computer as necessary and it gets all the way to the end of the blue progress bar on the "Starting up Mac OS..." stage and hangs. I waited a long time and it still just hung. Sound familiar?
I know many people have said that this is due to pre-existing problems or messy systems but I run maintenance on mine fairly regularly and it was working strong before the update.
Here's what I have tried so far:
• started in safe mode or at least I tried to, i held shift but it still got to the same place and hung up so maybe I didn't hold it at the right time? I held it after the chime until I saw the grey apple screen with the progress clock
• put my desktop into Target Disk mode and connected to my laptop, I ran Disk Utility and repaired the disk until everything came out clean. Repair/Verify Permissions, however, was grayed out (more on this in a second).
• Ran Disk Warrior from the laptop on the Target Disk desktop drive. It recognized it and attempted to run a clean up but I kept getting an error message saying it is too severely damaged and can't be repaired. This even after I had run Disk Utility with a clean bill of health.
• I tried resetting the PRAM several times but it didn't help.
• started in single-user mode and ran "fsck -fy" per some unix commands I found on the forums. it came back clean numerous times. I also tried running repair permissions via the same screen but the cursor would just jump down to a blank line and nothing I input would do anything.
• held option during startup to bring up the startup disk selection screen. It loaded but the little stopwatch just spun and wouldn't let me select my second hard-drive as my startup. That would've solved a ton of problems right there as the second drive never got the update and I've used that to fix the first in the past.
• with the desktop targeted I ran terminal in the laptop and tried the unix repair permissions command from there but it gave me some jargon about the command and a line about ownership of the drive and wouldn't do it.
• finally, I put my desktop into target disk mode, and started the laptop from the OS installer CD. I ran Disk Utility from the laptop on the desktop and I was able to do both Repair Disk AND Repair Permissions. The disk was fine, the permissions had some fixes but came back clean on a second pass. I figured this would fix it all but, alas, no dice. Still hanging at the end of "Starting Mac OS...".
Is there something I am missing or anything else I can try? As I said all the files and info are still there because I can get to them just fine via the Target Disk mode, it just won't finish loading the OS. My other issue is that I have a second hard drive in the desktop and the Target Disk mode only mounts the primary drive. The second drive is my backup drive and I need to be able to access it.
Any help would be greatly greatly appreciated folks, thanks so much!!

RaptorRed67 wrote:
Update:
I also looked in the system.log file and found this repeated numerous times at the end:
launchd: /system/library/coreservices/loginwindow.app/contents/macos/loginwindow port /dev/console exited abnormally: segmentation fault
Below it, this:
launchd: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/console, sleeping
Interspersed among the lines about the loginwindow were other inputs, most notably these:
The following startupitems failed to properly start:
/library/startupitems/symdcinit
-execution of startup script failed
system/library/startupitems/fibrechannel
-execution of startup script failed
Again, are any of these files ones that can be trashed and will be rebuilt by the OS when it starts? Or can copies be dragged from my healthy system to the failing one to overwrite them?
IF you are fully backed up AND the two systems are running the same version of the OS on the same architecture (e.g. both PPC or both Intel) then you could try dragging items from the laptop to replace. Alternatively, you could use Pacifist to extract them from the install disk or from a later OS update where available.
I would create a directory /Library/StartupItems.disabled and drag the contents of /Library/StartupItems into that folder. Nothing there is critical so disable all of that stuff for now. I would do the same with /Library/LaunchDaemons.disabled and /Library/LaunchAgents.disabled if applicable. Then do the same with any corresponding folders in your user Library.
You'll still need to replace the FibreChannel item because that's system and presumably important.
I'm thinking, though, that the number of errors you're seeing probably indicates an archive and install would be the best option.
- cfr

Security Update 2008-006 STILL breaks my Firewire

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