See color profile of embeded file

Hi guys, I would like to know if there is a way to see in illustrator the color mode of a picture (RGB or CMYK) if a picture that is embedded (not a linked file)?

Cool Monika thanks, the problem is that when I try to open the pdf on illustrator the "Convert color mode" warning appears, so I wanted to know if there is a way to know which images are not on cmyk to correct them and make the press ready file.

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How can I see, within LR2, which Color Profile is embedded in JPEG and TIFF versions of my pix? The "Color Profile" field is provided in "Properties - Metadata" in Photoshop Elements, but I cannot find the "Color Profile" field in LR2 "Library - Metadata", even when I select the "All" option for the Metadata panel.
Is there some way to really see "ALL" of the metadata in LR2?

Paul,
I don't think you can. But, in LR, the color profile (as long as it's taken into account correctly) does not matter that much, since upon Export you have to specify a color encoding to be used (and profile to be included) anyway.
Beat Gossweiler
Switzerland

Color space of embedded files

Is there a way to determine the color space of a file that is embedded in Illustrator?

Usually an embedded file is the same color space as the AI file.
Only when you open a PDF generated elsewhere this might also be something like multichannel.

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Is Bridge not supposed to show detailed information about illustrator files?
I'm trying to view the color mode of ai files, but I can't get them to show.
I would think that it being a long-standing Adobe app that Bridge would allow it.
Any ideas?

You'll need to provide some better specifics.
I brought it in from final cut 6 as a quicktime output.
Did you use the Send To Color command from within Final Cut?
I'm going to suspect that your problems are a result of using a Mac Mini. Color requires the use of a graphics card, not an integrated graphics chipset (like those found in Mac Minis and MacBooks).
Quote from the Final Cut Studio Requirements page:
An AGP or PCI Express Quartz Extreme graphics card (Final Cut Studio is not compatible with integrated Intel graphics processors)

Disappearing color profile when saved for the Web

Hello.
I have a problem with the “Save for the Web” results using Photoshop CS6 running on Win 7 x64.
My photos are already in 8 bits and in sRGB and when I save for the Web I check the option “embed color profile”, uncheck “convert to sRGB”, metadata to “copyright and contact info”.
When I open the resulting photos in Photoshop, everything is fine as it recognizes the embedded color profile. Same thing when I open these files in Firefox, Safari or Chrome: the colors are correct.
Now, when I right-click on a file in the Win Explorer and look its properties, the line about the color profile is blank, as if there wasn't any. This doesn't bother me but the problem appears on my Website created with Joomla and using for the display a module, Responsive Image Gallery, which creates resized copies of the photos. At this point the copies have completely lost their color profile. I entered in contact with the module's support and they assured me that it preserves the embedded profile, so I come here to gather some information about how this “Save for the Web” embeds the color profile because may be I just didn't understand how it does and if it's different from the “Save as” way.
The fact I can't see the profile through the Win Explorer makes me think Joomla's module doesn't either.

Incredible how much gballard's site is famous! Lol. I use it for a while now and checked again right now with the three Web browsers and everything is all right.
As indicated in my first post, when saving for the Web I checked the “embed color profile” option. I already resized the file and converted it in sRGB first in Photoshop.
Yes it's pretty confusing to see some software not able to see the color profile when the file is saved with that option.
To illustrate, here are three screenshots from Windows' file browser => right-ckick on the file => properties => details:
Opening that “saved for the Web” file in PS, it's ok, the CP is recognized.
Opening it directly (from the file browser => “open with”) in Web browsers: ok in Firefox, Safari and Chrome (CP recognized in all).
Copying that file in my working site on localhost (no modification), integer it in Joomla's module gallery (which is CP aware) and then opening my site on localhost with Web browsers: ok in Firefox (because it considers a non-tagged file by default as beeing sRGB), NOT OK in Safari neither in Chrome.
Now, if I do the same with the “Save as” version of the file with embedded sRGB CP:
PS: ok
Opened directly in Web browsers: ok in the three cases
Opened in Web browsers through my Joomla site on localhost: OK IN ALL THREE BROWSERS
Good point gator_soup: I'll post a bug report. I'm new here on the forum and thought Adobe's staff would post here.

Preserving ICC Color Profile in image conversion.

Hi-
I'm quite lost on how to preserve a color profile using the JAI tools. I'm hoping somebody can help.
Basically, I have a TIF, which I read the image and it's metadata, and can dump everything out showing the non-standard embedded color profile. Then I want to save the image as a jpg with the same color profile information embedded, but it doesn't seem to be automatic, and I can't find the proper API.
I'm actually shooting for JPeg2000, but I'm using standard JPG for now, so that I can easily open the resulting image up in photoshop to see the embedded color profile.
My read code is something like this:
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Iterator<ImageReader> readers = ImageIO.getImageReadersByFormatName("TIFF");
ImageReader reader = readers.next();
md = reader.getImageMetadata(0);
ImageInputStream iis = ImageIO.createImageInputStream(new File("foo.tif"));
reader.setInput(iis);
TIFFImageMetadata tmd = (TIFFImageMetadata)md;
TIFFField f = tmd.getTIFFField(BaselineTIFFTagSet.TAG_ICC_PROFILE);
ICC_Profile p = ICC_Profile.getInstance(f.getAsBytes());
ICC_ColorSpace cs = new ICC_ColorSpace(p);
spec = ImageTypeSpecifier.createInterleaved(cs, new int[] {0}, DataBuffer.TYPE_BYTE, false, false);
ImageReadParam rp = new TIFFImageReadParam();
rp.setDestinationType(spec);
img = reader.read(0, rp);
And my write code is something like this:
Iterator<ImageWriter> writers = ImageIO.getImageWritersByFormatName("JPG");
ImageWriter writer = writers.next();
ImageOutputStream ios = ImageIO.createImageOutputStream(new File("foo.jpg"));
writer.setOutput(ios);
ImageWriteParam wp = configWriteParam(writer);
wp.setDestinationType(spec);
writer.write(md, new IIOImage(img, null, md), wp);
Any ideas for me? I'm completely stumped.
Thanks!
-Eric.

It worked fine before but than one day (don't remember for sure when) it started not working. I think I probably updated my Photoshop at the same time so something may have changed there.
Hello Sergei,
First of all, Welcome to the  Discussions forums!
Have you Repaired Permissions after the Photoshop update on that machine?
littleshoulders

Display image color profile

Can LR display the ICC color profile name of an image ?
Had to turn to Photoshop
to retreive that info I had forgotten to add in the file name ( "Picture_zzz_xxxPrinter_yyyPaper_profile_nnnDPI_WxH.tif" )
pretty basic, isn't it ?
Moreover long filenames are truncated and show only in metadata File Name block in right panel.
But that's another story !

Dear DLScreative,
please let us not fight over words - fact is, that with at least 2 totally different users and 4 different Mac computers Aperture 3.x behaves totally different (i.e. cannot display these images) than Aperture 2.x. The special color profile is embedded because 15.000 images were scanned with a Nikon LS5000
scanner. I don't know how to upload this color profile (which has been tested to be correct) to this
forum. Would you care if I sent you an E-Mail with the special profile attached so you could yourself
try and see?
Regards,

Embed ColorSync profile, how to get back to original color profile?

I am a bit shocked , experienced today that iPhoto by default embed ColorSync profile (found under general- advanced settings for iPhoto) to every photo imported.
I always believed (and trusted) iphoto did not change the original file from the memory card. I have compared today the file from the memory card and the one found under originals in iPhoto library and see now that iphoto darken the shadows area a bit, in my eyes not a good thing.
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iPhoto by default embed ColorSync profile (found under general- advanced settings for iPhoto) to every photo imported.
Well let's get past the shock for you. It doesn't.
If the photo has a pre-existing color profile then the file is not touched. iPhoto uses the one already embedded. It only adds a profile if 1: there is none present and 2. If you check the box.
The profile attached is virtually indistinguishable from sRGB, just adapted slightly for Apple monitors.
Search the Help for ColorSync. This explains it quite clearly.
Regards
TD

Photos to FCP- best color profile?

Greetings.
What would the best color profile be for a .psd file to be used in FCP? For viewing on HD TV? Regular SD tv?
My gut tells me something like sRGB, but I'm just not certain.
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"FCP doesn't see color profiles..."
Not everyone believes that to be a true statement. In fact, when bringing an image from Photoshop into FCP you should first convert image to APPLE RGB. Of course, I don't expect you to believe me, so try it yourself. Bring in one image with just the regular Adobe RGB (1998) profile and the same image converted to Apple RGB. Set each frame for 10 seconds in length and render yourself a 20 second QT movie. Burn to disk and watch it on the TV, you'll see a definite difference. The Adobe RGB image will look "washed out" compared to the image with the Apple RGB profile.
Before you argue with me just try it.
This whole area bugged the crap out of me until I uncovered a true gem stuffed inside a multimedia "how-two" guide written by Brian Storm, founder of MediaStorm and one of country's most sought after multimedia experts. (Disclaimer, Brian was a colleague of mine at MSNBC years ago.) Here's what Brian's "how-to guide" says:
+Final Cut will not accurately import images embedded with the Adobe RGB (1998) color profile. You must convert the images to Apple RGB. This will retain your color information while enabling Final Cut to properly read your new color profile.+
+To change your color profile, select the Image > Mode > Assign Profile... from the menu. In the dialog menu, select "Profile: Apple RGB.”+
Just try it; it works.

Reinstating color profiles

I have a piece of proprietary software which has the unfortunate side-effect of stripping the embedded color profiles from my files.
I want to reinstate the color profiles without opening the images (jpegs) and re-saving them, because these are for professional use and I would prefer not to suffer the open-save degradation which happens with jpegs.
I've tried adding the color profile back in using Bridge Tools>Replace Metadata with a suitable metadata template, and this appears to work, in that the line "photoshop:ICCProfile: Adobe RGB (1998)" has been added in the Adobe Photoshop section in the Advanced pane of File Info. But when I try to open the image in Photoshop I get the "The document "XXXX" does not have an embedded RGB profile" dialog.
So, where else is Photoshop looking to find out if there is an embedded color profile? Is there any other way to reinstate the color profile without opening the file?

The name of the color profile in the metadata is not the ICC profile--just it's name.
You'll have to open the file and readd the profile.
I've seen flames over the years on the Photoshop forums about JPEG resaving and degradation. My take on the arguments is that if the image is unedited, a series of JPEG resaves degrades the image quality someplace between a very tiny amount and zero.

OS X: Color profiles in CC

With CS6 the use of color profiles was no problem. They were taken by CS6 apps right from
/Users/[USER]/Library/ColorSync
and
/Library/ColorSync
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I send them as jpeg files at the lab's request. The color profile is embedded in the jpeg so we have a wysiwyg thing going on. Just like when you're printing directly from Aperture you set the printer profile and even the profile for the kind of paper you'll be using. In this situation Aperture does a nice job but for whatever reason it doesn't do well with the profile for my lab.
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Preview Color Profile Info

I know it's got to be there but I cannot find a way to show the embedded color profile information in Lightroom. I tried LIbrary View Options and Prefernces. Also tried a search in the Help area as well as as search in this forum.
Can someone help? :-)
Linda

Phil,
If I understand you right, yes. I'll say it back to make sure.
I start by processing all my images and often do additional enhancements in Photoshop, all in the Adobe RGB color space. Once I'm done with the core processing, I then will have different folders with different images and their profiles.
One will be a folder of web images in the sRGB colors space. Another folder will contain images with a particular printer profile that is embedded for output. If I use my own printer they will contain the Canon i9900 profile. If it's an outside printer the images will have that printer's profile.
When I open images in Lightroom I want to know if Lightroom is giving me a preview that is consistent with the embedded profile.
I also would like to be able to have the option to see what profile is embedded.
Hope that helps clarify. I'm a little sleep deprived lately.

Color profile questions

1. When do you need to embed a color profile for a file that you intend to sent to a printer vs. just soft proofing?
2. How do you get more profiles if needed?
Thanks.

Select the correct document profile when creating a new file. This creates an RGB resp a CMYK file.
You can also change it later via File > Document color mode > RGB / CMYK
You can assing a profile via Edit > Attach color profile.
In most cases you wouldn't want ICC colormanagement to convert your vector file, because that way you'll never get your RGB 000 to become a clean 100 K for your thin lines or small type.

How to chnge cmyk and also apply color profiles in bridge

Hi
i want to apply color profile for selceted files in brige

Does any one know how you can adjust the font size (point size) for the file
names.
Sadly enough you can't chance that, feel free to add a feature request for
that, the more there ask for the bigger chance it will be realized.
It would be great if the colors for the image name (background and font color)
could be changed so the contrast could also be increased so it is also easier
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And this the cheerful part, go to Bridge preferences General tap and play
with the sliders for user interface and Image Backdrop until your satisfied.
BTW using the slider for thumbnail size bottom right of the Bridge window to
increase the thumbs does not increase the font but makes it nevertheless a
little clearer.

Embedded Color Profile is Lost When Content is Published to Web or Dragging Image Window on Desktop

Hello, Everyone. I have a question that I have struggled to crack on my own to no avail. I hope someone here can help.
I am trying to publish some images to the web using color corrected monitors, RAW format, and a color checker passport to create a perfeect color profile. Here are the technical details and my workflow.
Camera: Canon Rebel EOS Xsi
Format: RAW + L
Color Space: sRGB
Color Checker: X-Rite ColorChecker Passport
Monitor Calibrator: Spyder4 Pro, fully updated software
Computer: Lenovo T420 ThinkPad
Second monitor: Samsung LED SyncMaster SA350 (NVIDIA)
Photoshop: v12.1 x64 (CS5.5)
Photoshop Color Settings: Custom North America Web/Internet
RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
Gray: Gray GAmma 2.2
Spot: Dot Grain 20%
Policies
RGB: Preserve Embedded Profiles
CMYK: Preserve Embedded Profiles
Gray: Preserve Embedded Profiles
After importing the image into Photoshop, I make sure the RAW space is set to sRGB IEC6 1966-2.1
Use the eyedropper to select a neutral color one step away from pure white on the RAW image of the color checker, create and set the custom white balance.
set the white balance
Export the image as a DNG
Load the DNG into the X-Rite ColorChecker Passport software to create a color profile
Back to Photoshop
Open the RAW file
Set the white balance to the custom profile created above
Set the color profile created with X-Rite
Open the color-corrected image in Photoshop (see color setting above)
Save as JPEG
Publish
First, everything seems to go great throughout this entire process, until I see the image on the Web: LINK. Once published, the image has a very noticible golden-yellow tint to it. The color-corrected image looks great on both color-calibrated monitors, in RAW and JPEG. Absolutely perfect. After noticing the ugly yellow tint in the image I posted to the Web, however, I became aware of a couple more weird things.
1) When the JPEG was open in Photoshop and I moved the window that contained the image around on my second monitor, the image immediately took on that golden-yellow tint: you can see a screen shot of the color corrected image on my Samsung (bottom) and the yellow version of the same image created when I drag the window around on the Samsung (top) HERE.
2) When opening the X-Rite software, I got a warning saying that the laptop monitor had been calibrated, but that the Samsung had not. I got this error even if I calibrated the Samsung monitor right before using X-Rite. Also, the monitor is definitely calibrated, because the images look great, and the colors match what I see on the laptop.
3) Recently, I noticed that when waking my computer from sleep, the Samsung monitor no longer holds its Datacolor (Spyder4) calibration.
I thought the problem I was having might be due to the monitor, for the reasons stated above. However, I later noticed that when I open the color-corrected JPEG with the default Windows image viewer, it retains the color correction settings. The image looks fantastic, and doesn't lose it's color profile when I drag the window around. Also, there seems to be less color loss in the Word documents and PDFs I included this image in: LINK.
I checked this with several more images, and the results are the exact same. I scoured the Web as best I could, but my problem seems to be pretty unique. Does anyone have an idea what might be causing this?
Thank you!

Thank you, twenty_one, for taking the time to read my post and put up a reply. I am going to rebuild my question and post it again here. But first, to answer some of your points:
1. A raw file has no color space, until it's opened into one in the raw converter. So this is controlled in ACR, not the camera.
I just wanted to be as thorough as possible. One of the steps I took was to set the Color Space setting in my camera to sRGB:
2. White balance has no bearing whatsoever on camera profiles. A profile is not for white balancing, it's to account for the spectral distribution of the light, which is something else. You make the profile and assign it in ACR, then you white balance for processing.
I know. I wasn't talking about white balance in my camera. I set the white balance here:
I grabbed the color for setting the WB here:
3. If you get a message about monitor calibration upon opening the camera calibration software, something is seriously confused. The two have nothing to do with each other. No relation whatsoever.
Camera calibration software?
4. A corrupted monitor profile will only show up in Photoshop and other color managed software. Other applications that are not color managed will not use the profile and are not affected. So find out which apps are and which aren't before drawing any conclusions.
Agreed. That's partly what I am trying to get help with.
5. Your links don't work, and in any case clicking on links is something most people including myself dislike. It's much better to insert screenshots in the post, by using the camera icon in the reply box.
I'm new to this forum, so this is helpful to know. This image shows the color-corrected image (bottom) on my Samsung. It looks exactly the same in the same window on my laptop monitor. When I move that window around on my Samsung screen, it turns gold (top). The image, when posted to the web, looks *similar* to that gold color.
So let's say I only use Photoshop on my laptop, which is not displaying any colors. Do you think the golden hue problem will go away?

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