See the box model in Design View

This is probably a simple question but I can't seem to figure this out or find out about it in the help.sometines when I'm working on a page element the margnins and padding are shown in the design view window. most often they are not visable. How can I choose to show the margin and paddign of elements in the Design view? I have the View>visua laids>box model selected. It only shows up seemingly randomly.
I suspect there is a keyboard combination or something I need to invoke so I can have control over shwoing the margin and padding when I want to see it.
thanks for any help.

markf12 wrote:
This is probably a simple question but I can't seem to figure this out or find out about it in the help.sometines when I'm working on a page element the margnins and padding are shown in the design view window. most often they are not visable. How can I choose to show the margin and paddign of elements in the Design view? I have the View>visua laids>box model selected. It only shows up seemingly randomly.
I suspect there is a keyboard combination or something I need to invoke so I can have control over shwoing the margin and padding when I want to see it.
thanks for any help.
Should show up if you click the border of a container. Then if you want to see that actual measurements hover over the border again.

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