Seeking advice on moving up to HDV editing

I appreciate folks on this forum who have assisted me in the past when I’ve had questions about iMovie, editing, burning DVDs etc. Karsten, Lennart, Bengt and others from around the world have been very kind and helpful. I am now seeking advice from anyone regarding “moving up” to the HDV world of video editing.
I recently "retired" my 2003 iMac G4 800 MHz flat screen and replaced it with an iMac 2.8 GHz Intel core 2 duo with a 320 GB hardrive and 4 GB of upgraded RAM. I have a 250 GB external drive as well. I also replaced my old Sony TRV-30 digital camcorder (a great old workhorse which is still going strong after 8 years) with a Canon Vixia HV40 that has high definition recording capability (uses mini DV tape).
I had been using iMovie HD 06 to edit my video projects along with iDVD and Toast 6 to burn them to DVD. I would like to start shooting HDV video with the new Canon, edit and burn the projects to Blu Ray high definition discs. MCE Technologies (among others, I believe) offer both internal and external Blu Ray burners. I don’t believe that the internal Blu Ray burner would work in my new iMac, but I may be wrong on that. (Does anyone know the answer?)
I believe that the MCE external Blu Ray burner would work with my equipment if attached to one of the Firewire ports or possibly through one of the USB 2 ports. (there is both a 400 and 800 Firewire port on this iMac model.) I was planning to acquire Final Cut Express as the editing program with Toast 10 Pro (plus the Blu Ray plug in) to burn the edited projects.
Will this work? Is there anything I should know before I plunge “headlong” into HDV editing? Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks in advance.
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scooper wrote:
.. iMac 2.8 GHz Intel core 2 duo with a 320 GB hardrive and 4 GB of upgraded RAM. I have a 250 GB external drive .. Canon Vixia HV40 .. external Blu Ray burner .. Final Cut Express .. Toast 10 Pro (plus the Blu Ray plug in)
Will this work?
I'm jealous.. wow! MY set-up..
HDV is supported by IMHD6.. just to mention that. so, HDV-editing is same as SD..
iMHD6 Export 'FullQuality' creates a file, which is HiDef too, for your Toast/BR workflow ..
HDV creates on import (IMHD6/FCE) huuuuuge files, 40-60GBs/h .. 250 extHDD = 6h, full..
actual price for extHDD with 1TB <100€ ..
keep in mind: internal harddrive has to offer any time 10-20GBs free..
not every BR-standalone-player accepts homebrewn disks..don't be disappointed...
Toast and iDVD can burn DVDs (=which offer SD only) from HiDef projects.. no need to 'convert'.. both apps downsize automatically...
FCE has a (very) steem learning curve.. totally different to iMovie.. no one-click-only, no templates, no ready-mades.. but zillions of options, 101% control.. (simple example: ken burns with zoom-to-zil and rotation and moving out of frame...)
buy a book of FC Mastermind and AppleDiscussions-Level5 supporter *Tom Wolsky* - he's a sensei, in-depth-knowledge, hands-on (=no tech blabla), easy to read and understand.
don't start with a project, start with 'tests for the trashbin'..

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      CONSTRAINT "FK_####_DOC_INV_ID" FOREIGN KEY ("INVOICE_ID")
             REFERENCES "INVOICE_LO" ("INVOICE_ID") ENABLE
   ) SEGMENT CREATION IMMEDIATE
INITRANS 20
TABLESPACE "####_####_DATA"
       XMLTYPE COLUMN "DOC" STORE AS BASICFILE CLOB (
TABLESPACE "####_####_DATA" XMLTYPE COLUMN "DOC" STORE AS BASICFILE CLOB (
TABLESPACE "####_####_DATA" ENABLE STORAGE IN ROW CHUNK 16384 RETENTION
NOCACHE LOGGING
STORAGE(INITIAL 81920 NEXT 1048576 MINEXTENTS 1 MAXEXTENTS 2147483645
PCTINCREASE 0 FREELISTS 1 FREELIST GROUPS 1 BUFFER_POOL DEFAULT FLASH_CACHE DEFAULT CELL_FLASH_CACHE DEFAULT))
XMLSCHEMA "http://mycompanynamehere.com/xdb/Invoice###.xsd" ELEMENT "Invoice" ID #####"
{code}
What is a best practice for this type of table? Yes, we intend on registering the schema against an xsd.
Any help/advice would be appreciated.
-abe

Hi,
I suggest you read this paper : Oracle XML DB : Choosing the Best XMLType Storage Option for Your Use Case
It is available on the XML DB home page along with other documents you may be interested in.
To sum up, the storage method you need depends on the requirement, i.e. how XML data is accessed.
There was one where a Mr. Drake was explaining something about not using clob as an attribute to storing the xml and that "it will break your application."I think the message Mark Drake wanted to convey is that CLOB storage is now deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore (though still supported for backward compatibility).
The default XMLType storage starting with version 11.2.0.2 is now Binary XML, a posted-parsed binary format that optimizes both storage size and data access (via XQuery), so you should at least use it instead of the BASICFILE CLOB.
Schema-based Binary XML is also available, it adds another layer of "awareness" for Oracle to manage instance documents.
To use this feature, the XML schema must be registered with "options => dbms_xmlschema.REGISTER_BINARYXML".
The other common approach for schema-based XML is Object-Relational storage.
BTW... you may want to post here next time, in the dedicated forum : {forum:id=34}
Mark Drake is one of the regular user, along with Marco Gralike you've probably seen too at OOW.
Edited by: odie_63 on 18 oct. 2012 21:55

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