Segment Derivation in New G/L

Dear Experts,
I'm assessing the chance of activating New G/L functionalities and I would like to have more information on Segment derivation.
Segment has been introduced with new G/L and, and it can be derived in 3 ways:
- Directly linked in the Profit Center master data
- Derived via BAdI
- Manually included in the FI posting carried out in the system
Is it possible to not assign any segment to a specific Profit Center? in this case if a BAdI has been created for the derivation of segment from this specific Profit Center, would the system retrieve the segement from it?
If a link has been defined in the profit center master data does this mean that the system will execute any BAdI that might have been created?
Is it possible to create two derivation rules of the segment (via BAdI) starting linked to the same Profit Center?
Thanks in advance for the help.
Davide

Hi
In New GL, Segment derivation independant of profit center is very much feasible
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