Segment number & Numer of hierarchically higher SAP segment

experts
how to know the segment number & Num of hierarchically higher SAP segment
of the idocs?
edi_dd-segnum -Number of SAP segment
edi_dd-psgnum -Num of hierarchically higher SAP segment
i have the problem in populating the hierarchy and number of segment for orders05 idoc?
ORDERS05                       Purchasing/Sales
       E1EDK01 IDoc: Document header general data
       E1EDK14 IDoc: Document Header Organizational Data
       E1EDK03 IDoc: Document header date segment
       E1EDK04 IDoc: Document header taxes
       E1EDK05 IDoc: Document header conditions
       E1EDKA1 Doc: Document Header Partner Information
           E1EDKA3                        IDoc: Document Header Partner Information Additional Data
       E1EDK02                        IDoc: Document header reference data
       E1EDK17                        IDoc: Document Header Terms of Delivery
       E1EDK18                        IDoc: Document Header Terms of Payment
       E1EDK35                        IDoc: Document Header Additional Data
       E1EDK36                        IDOC: Doc.header payment cards
       E1EDKT1                        IDoc: Document Header Text Identification
           E1EDKT2                        IDoc: Document Header Texts
       E1EDP01                        IDoc: Document Item General Data
       E1CUCFG                        CU: Configuration data
       E1EDL37                        Handling unit header
       E1EDS01                        IDoc: Summary segment general.

thanks for the reply Alexander.
i checked in we30, after clicking on the segment in the pop up box we can see
the herichey level ie hlevel of the segment.
Now how to know the segnum(segment number) of the segment?
actually i am populating EDI_DD40, so i need the segnum.
In edi_dd40 we have following
SEGNAM = name of segment ex E1EDK01
MANDT = sy-mandt
DOCNUM = no need because i am generating idoc
SEGNUM = ? I want to know from where i can get this
PSGNUM = ? I want to know from where i can get this
HLEVEL= this can be seen in we30
SDATA = this is the fields we need to fill .
so experts tell me from where i need to get psgnum and segnum?

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