Segment Target Group

Hello to all,
I'm working on CRM 4.0.
On Segment Builder Trx I've been created some Profile Groups within some Target Groups, when I creating Target and opening this one I see only Master Data BP but I need to see others datas, like customs Market Attributes.
How can I view this otehers datas?

Hey Guys,
I am alos having problem witht the target group selection in the segment builder.
I ma creatign the target group and opening up the Target group.
I can see the list of BP present in the Target GRoup.
But when I am trying to open the BP by Double Clicking on it a screen is opening up with
"YOu are not Authorized to view this page".
Any suggestions on how to avodi this error.
We dont have any portal installed

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Regeneration of Target Group

Hi crmguys,
We have the following case about the Target Group in CRM Marketing:
Already Generate a Target Group in Segment Builder on x date
A Campaign has been created and the Target Group has been assigned to this Campaign
After that some changes has been done at the time of releasing the campaign,
shall i have to regenerate the target group or not to get the exact target group accroding to attribute list
thanks in advance
Raj

hi
you said you already maintained the target group ,so when you release the campign its pretty simple,if you have maintained the target group using the same set of attributes which are there in your attribute list,then you need not create the target group again
but if thats not the case then you need to regenerate the target group on the basis of attribute list,infosets or BW query,using whatever you want to do the segmentation.
target group once assigned to the campaigns can be used again and again but on the basis of which target group are assigned is very crucial.this must be remembered every time we do segmentation.
besides you can maintain a background job for scheduling the target group assignment to the BP too,so that once target group is generated it is assigned automatically for segmentation.
best regards
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Enhance output of Target Group opened in segment builder

Hello Experts,
We are implementing SAP CRM Lean Marketing using CRM 7.0. Our business requirement is to do segmentation based on Company attributes and Relationship Category. The output of the target group should enlist the persons related to the Company based on the relationship category selected while doing the segmentation.
Using standard InfoSet CORM_MKTTG_BP_ORG_CDE and while creating data source selecting BUT000_PER-PARTNER_GUID in the field business partner, we are able to get the list of persons matching the segmentation query (based on the relationship category e.g. Has Supplier, Has Contact Person, etc) . But the issue is , the output of the target group (shown as an ALV grid , when the target group is opened in segment builder) only enlists matching Persons, it does not enlist the related company ID /name in front of the Person ID in the output of the target group. And this Company BP ID is not available if I try to modify the output layout. So business is unable to understand the Person enlisted in TG belongs to which Company. Can we enhance this ALV grid output of the target group displayed in segment builder ? if yes , how can it be achieved ? If this is possible and we are able to add related company BP ID/ name in front of every person enlisted in the target group then our issue gets resolved. Or is there any alternative solution to resolve this issue ?
Highly appreciate your early response in order to resolve this critical issue.
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Edited by: AMBAR ADHAV on Sep 10, 2011 11:52 AM
Edited by: AMBAR ADHAV on Sep 10, 2011 2:21 PM

Naresh,
Thanks for the response.
As per your suggestion I made additions to my z Infoset , and added all the fields you suggested.
While creating the data source I selected following fields
Business Partner: BUT000_PER-PARTNER_GUID (as my requirement is to return Persons and this field works with only GUID)
Reference Object: BUT051-RELNR
Reference Object Type: BUT051-RELTYP
Now when I create the target group with this data source unfortunately I am still not getting the the relationship number when I click in Show assigned Objects in the target group screen of web UI.
Please suggest where I am going wrong
Thanks
Ambar

Enhance output of Target Group in segment builder

Hello Experts,
We are implementing SAP CRM Lean Marketing using CRM 7.0. Our business requirement is to do segmentation based on Company attributes and Relationship Category. The output of the target group should enlist the persons related to the Company based on the relationship category selected while doing the segmentation.
Using standard InfoSet CORM_MKTTG_BP_ORG_CDE and while creating data source selecting BUT000_PER-PARTNER_GUID in the field business partner, we are able to get the list of persons matching the segmentation query (based on the relationship category e.g. Has Supplier, Has Contact Person, etc) . But the issue is , the output of the target group (shown as an ALV grid , when the target group is opened in segment builder) only enlists matching Persons, it does not enlist the related company ID /name in front of the Person ID in the output of the target group. And this Company BP ID is not available if I try to modify the output layout. So business is unable to understand the Person enlisted in TG belongs to which Company. Can we enhance this ALV grid output of the target group displayed in segment builder ? if yes , how can it be achieved ? If this is possible and we are able to add related company BP ID/ name in front of every person enlisted in the target group then our issue gets resolved. Or is there any alternative solution to resolve this issue ?
Highly appreciate your early response in order to resolve this critical issue.
Thanks and Regards
Ambar
Edited by: AMBAR ADHAV on Sep 10, 2011 11:53 AM
Edited by: AMBAR ADHAV on Sep 10, 2011 2:22 PM

Hello Experts,
We tried implementing BADI CRM_MKTTG_SEG_MEM_EX in order to add Company ID/ Name , but the issue is the BADI gets Input as persons BP id, nothing else, due to this if a person is having relationships with multiple companies, the BADI is unable to identify which company to choose as Relationship Category is not available to the BADI. And further issue is if a Person is having same relationship category with 2 companies e.g. Supplier for company A and for Company B too , in this case too the BADI is unable identify correct Company to return to the target group output
Is there someting in the Infoset that can resolve our issue ? How can I make available the fields in the infoset to the ALV output of the target group. Using SQ02 I am able to add fields to the field groups for selection in segmentation, but can anyone guide, how to make the field available in the output list ?
Please provide your technical assistance
Thanks
Ambar

CRM Target Groups and Product Segments - BW and BPS settings

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I have some questions regarding the CRM Target Groups and Product Segments as it relates to BW and BPS planning layouts.
1. When a target group is created in CRM, is it supposed to also be create master data entry for the object 0TGGRP_ID in BW? If it is, what kind of settings need to be made to ensure that? When we create target groups in our CRM instance, we donu2019t see the master data being updated for the 0TGGRP_ID info object.
2. Where exactly (in BW) is the relationship between the target group and the underlying customer/business partners stored/updated? We have a requirement to use target groups for defining the trade promotions and still being able to explode and plan on (individual) customers in the embedded BPS Planning layout. I believe that we need to have target group and associated customer assignments stored somewhere (?) in BW and use BPS characteristic relationships to populate all the possible combinations for a target group ID being passed from CRM. Am I correct in my assumptions? Any ideas if SAP has already delivered something similar in the BPS business content for TPM?
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4. Where is the relationship between a Product Segment and the associated products stored/updated in BW? How do I create a trade promotion using a product segment and make the BPS planning layout populate individual products in the lead column?
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Hi Anna,
After reading your post, what i understand is that there is no existing relationship present in CRM system between the Org BP and the contact person BP.
As per my Knowledge in order to create a Target group with Contact Persons you should have an active relationship persent in the CRM system bewteen the BP and the Contact person.Now as your sceanrio suggests that the Contact person's are present in the BW system but not in CRM, i would assume that the relationship also exsits in the BW . So if it does then your BW team should be able to help you in creating the necessary infocube with there analytical tools and you can then use there cube as the datasource and create the necessary Target Group with Contact persons.
Comming to the second part of your question, your guess is absolutely right but to give you more detailed infomation , the BP ID is converted in a unique GUID and this is passed into the program to retrive the necessary information from the BP after the campaign is executed.
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Segment Builder: 'Business partner does not exist in target group'

After having built a target group in the segment builder the following error message occurs: 'Business partner does not exist in target group'. What is meant by this error message and what has caused this error?

Hi Mahesh,
Are data sources based in infoset¿? If the are based in infoset u can do simple queries.
I create infoset in t-code 'SQ02', once the infoset has been created u can go to 'Enviroment' --> Queries, and here u can created simple queries based in the infoset. With this tool u can check if this infoset has been created sucessfully.
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Changing archived status for target group or segmentation model.

Hello, CRMies!
In SAP CRm WEBUI i set "To archive" flag for segmentation model and now it has status "Archived". The problem is hat it became inactive now and i can't reset this status. I didn't execute any archiving reports, just set the flag on. I was looking for any FM or reports to recover the status.
Anybody knows how to unarchive segmentation model or TG?

Hi Katya,
as far I know the segmentation model is archived with the next scheduled archive run once the status 'to be archived' is set. The status can be undone before the archive run, once this is archived there is no way other then generating the segment again.
Please refer to the online help about further information:
Archiving Segmentation Elements - SAP Library
For target groups andproduct segments there is also a read program in transaction SARA, which you can use to display the archived segmentation elements again at a later point in time, if required.
Furthermore, the information structure SAP_CRM_MKTTG_I is available for target groups and product segments in the transaction SARA.
You can not only read, but can also load archived segmentation models into the system. However, you should only use this function when it is absolutely necessary. For further information, see Reloading Archive.
Since you cannot load target groups or product segments into the system, you need to generate these again to be able to use them.
I hope this helps.
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Target Group creation & Segmentation

Hi Friends,
Can you tell me the use of the toggle buttons OR/AND WITHIN AN ATTRIBUTE / OR/AND ACROSS ALL ATTRIBUTES below the Attribute Lists in the Segment Builder.
I my Project there is a requirement where the Client wants to use OR & AND CONDITIONS while creating a Target Group.
Thank you,
Rajendran S

Hi Rajendra,
When you have more than one filter to create a target group then use these toggle buttons to set AND / OR conditions between filters of different attributes or different filters of same attribute.
OR/AND WITHIN AN ATTRIBUTE :
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Dedeplication method in Target group/segmentation

Hi Gurus,
I am having two question to ask,
1) How to create Master group ? and using tagret group ?
2) How to use Deduplication method in Target group/segmentation ???
Please give step by step suggesion.
Suggesion will be appricited by good points.
Thanks in advance.
Dipesh

Hi Dipesh,
With respect to your questions
1. Master group
Master group is a subset of all BP in which you would like to create a target group.
Like you have BP across world in your system and you would like to create a master group for country like India and US.
So these will form as the master group and when you would like to run a campaign you can restrict it to run only in India or US by selecting your master group in the segment builder screen and creating a target group
There are few standard master group creation programs and you can infact build your own master groups also based on a Z program and assigning this master group to your segment category. You can make it as a mandatory for the user to select the master group.
You can create a target group from a master group.
2.Target group is nothing but bringing all the BP to whom you would like to target or run a campaign against. These are created from the attributes assigned to a attribute set which is again assigned to an attribute list. This attribute list is called in the segment builder screen and select the attributes in the profiling area to form a traget group and when you right click you will find the list of all BP that satisfy your criteria.
For more details you can also folow this link
Master group
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm50/helpdata/en/2e/0f050769001a4eb8ceaa87dc7dba1a/frameset.htm
target group
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm50/helpdata/en/2e/0f050769001a4eb8ceaa87dc7dba1a/frameset.htm
De duplication of segment
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm50/helpdata/en/2e/0f050769001a4eb8ceaa87dc7dba1a/frameset.htm
hope this clarifies and reward points if useful
Thanks
Srini

View List of BP's in Segmentation Basis and Target Groups

Hi Experts,
We are using Segmentation Basis for Segmentation. When I create the Segmentation Basis using WINGUI I see that the list of Business partners in the Segmentation Basis is around 15,000 but I can view only 100 of them in the List output. Is there any other way where I can see all the BP's that are assigned to a Segmentation Basis/Master group.
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Hi Pooja
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Hi all,
I looking for a BAPI that builds target group for segments and not for profile sets.
Transaction CRMD_MKTSEG allows to create TG in two ways :
- Build for Profile SET
- Build for Selected segment
BAPI_TARGETGROUP_CREATE is like u201CBuild for Profile SETu201D, since it requires a profile set guid as input
I have not found anything to u201CBuild for Selected segmentu201D, putting as input only a Profile.
The reason is that I need to "refresh" every day the target group and it is possible only if I create a TG for segment and not for profile set. In this second case the TG is frozen and no more refreshable,
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regards
Emanuele

Hi Emanuele,
There are three types of Segments:- Profile Sets, Target Groups, Profiles.
(You can check this yourself:- Go inside Find segments, then choose Advanced Search. You will get option to find Marketing Segments based on whether they are Profile sets or Target Groups or Profiles )
It means Profile Sets is also a type of Segment. So i am bit confused with your question.
If i understand your question correctly, you simply want to create a target group which should be refreshed automatically on a daily basis.
You can very well achieve this daily refresh by building the Target Group in Background Mode. While creating a Target Group there are two modes possible :- 1)Build Target Group in Dialog Mode 2)In Background Mode.
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Select the Checkbox "Active"
Do not select the checkbox "Modelling Completed".
Hope this helps in resolving your issues.
rgrds,
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I need to restrict the Target group member list to certain number in the target group of Marketing Segments.
Could you please guide me on this.
Do we have any class like 'CL_CRM_OPPORTH_RUN_BTIL' which we have for Opportunities.
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Anil Mula

HI
I have solved this on my own.
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Hi Experts,
I have a requirement where I will need to join profiles with other profiles and Target groups. I checked in help.sap and I saw the following sentence regarding combining the profiles.
In addition to attributes, you can also combine profiles with other profiles and with target groups.
Example
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How do I get the Profiles and the Target groups in the Components area? I can only view the existing Attribute lists. Is there any setting that I have to make to see the existing profiles and target groups ?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Hi Pooja,
which version of the product do you use? CRM 2007?
Scenario 1) I need to combine 2 profiles with an 'OR' condition and create target groups out of the combined profile. How do I accomplish this? Is there any method to combine profiles in the Graphic Modeler?
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=> Alternatively you can create a new profile which consists of all attributes and create a target group for this profile.
Scenario 2) If we have 2 profiles and a target group in a profile set how do I create a Target Group for all the BP's in the Profile set. The only selection criteria in the Graphic Modeller for me right now is Attribute lists. How do I select Target Groups and Profiles
=> Just create the target group for the complete profile set, then one consolidated target group is created.
Does this help?
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Hi,
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Regards,
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Hi Pooja,
which version of the product do you use? CRM 2007?
Scenario 1) I need to combine 2 profiles with an 'OR' condition and create target groups out of the combined profile. How do I accomplish this? Is there any method to combine profiles in the Graphic Modeler?
=> You could have 2 profiles in a profileset and create the target group for the complete profileset. Then the results are "OR combined".
=> Alternatively you can create a new profile which consists of all attributes and create a target group for this profile.
Scenario 2) If we have 2 profiles and a target group in a profile set how do I create a Target Group for all the BP's in the Profile set. The only selection criteria in the Graphic Modeller for me right now is Attribute lists. How do I select Target Groups and Profiles
=> Just create the target group for the complete profile set, then one consolidated target group is created.
Does this help?
Regards, Guido.

Synchronization of Target Group with BW

Hi,
In SAP Library, it is mentioned that "To keep target group information in the BW System up-to-date, CRM and BW must be synchronized. You activate this synchronization by choosing the Synchronization with BW indicator from the properties of the target group. "
The link is : http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm50/helpdata/en/2b/59dc46c50911d3b29b0050da3ee986/frameset.htm
When I open the Target Group Properties in Segment Builder, there is no field for setting this indicator.
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Hi Monica,
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<b>Reward if helps,</b>
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