Self life of Li-Ion battery on new but old Apple laptop stock?

Just bought a MBP MD101LL/A. It is brand new. Because it is a 2012 model, I am concerned about the Li-Ion date of manufacture. If the DOM was 2 years ago will apple replace it? Li-Ion is reported of having a service / self life of based on age and not just cycles (Professor Jeff Dahn of Dalhousie University). Depending on how the battery is stored the self life could be as low as 1 to 2 years.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Battery_Power/Lithium_Ion_Batteries.

"I am concerned about the Li-Ion date of manufacture. If the DOM was 2 years ago will apple replace it"
Yes this would be a problem. You should talk to the manager of the Apple store where you purchased the MBP and ask him to address your concern.

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