SEM BPS vs BW BPS

Are SEM BPS and BW BPS identical in terms of the functionality that they offer? If not what are the constraints and is one a limitation of the other? Thanks

hi,
SEM-BPS has some additional financial functions and different business content.
take a look :
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements bw-bps formerly sem-bps in sapnetweaver 04.ppt
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/frequently asked questions - planning with sap netweaver bi.faq#q-6
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
and threads
what is the difference between BW 3.5 BPS and SEM BPS 4.0
BW- BPS and SEM- BPS
SEM-BPS VS BW-BPS
hope this helps.

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Copy Documents - How to ... Documents in SEM-BPS and BW-BPS

Hi Gurus,
i need some assistance with implementing the Copy Documents functions according to How to ... Documents in SEM-BPS and BW-BPS.
The aim is to copy the documents to a new version. All other document attributes are to remain unchanged.
I have already implemented the function as described in the How-To using UPF_DOC_COPY_EXIT and UPF_DOC_COPY_INIT. The copy-exit ist called but it doesn't work.
- The target version is in the selection of the planning level.
- All characteristics of the info cube are in the planning level.
- There is no difference in the result using variables for the from / to values or using fixed values
Are there any hints to considder like:
characteristic selection in the level
which characteristics to include in the exit parameters (e.g. all with document attribute = active)
for characteristics not to be changed, leave the from / to values in the exit parameters blank
funcition does not work on multi-planning-areas
Thanks in advance and best regards
Steffen

Hello Marc,
thanks for your answer.
We are running BW350 with SP19. I checked the notes regarding comments.
"Note 1028233 - Key figure not taken into account for documents" is not implemented so far - SP20
Note 893377 - InfoProvider assignment of documents in BPS is not activated
As we are on SP19 all other comments are supposed to be implemented.
RSA1 > Documents shows that
all documents created using the WebInterface are saved to the appropriate value combination (without InfoProvider assignment - as supposed)
no document is copied at all.
Best regards
Steffen

SEM BPS or BW BPS

Hi Experts,
I am new to this planning area and have some basic questions.
1. I hear that SEM BPS has become BW-BPS. Does it mean that automatically from BI 3.5 or 7.0 the SEM server has been integrated to BW system(single system with BW and SEM together)? Pl. give me clarity on this.
2. What If I had the SEM BPS separate system and want to migrate to BW BPS system?. Is it possible?
3. I see that SAP is more recommending BI-IP. Does it mean that i have to change to BI-IP if i want to have better planning?.
4. I see that CRM needs BW-BPS planning framework as the basis for CRM planning functions. Does it mean that even if I have SEM BPS, i need to use BW BPS only for CRM market value planning?.
Kindly. clarify all my questions.
Thanks,
Raj

Hi,
It is not BI-BPS , I think it is BI-IP (Integrated Planning).
You will need a good knowledge of BI to use it. I would suggest, you read a bit about it and if you have a server handy with BI installed, start on it. Then do a short course on BI Planning.
The FI-CO background will help you in visualising the use of BI-IP and the design of the application. To actually model it, you will need to know the BI technical modeling.
Cheers.

Master Data Save Through BPS - BI and BPS Related

Hi,
I have 2 questions regarding BI and BPS working together.
1.Does all infoobject used in BPS layout have to be master data enabled to avoid BPS created master data? By this I mean, if an infoobject doesn't have 'with master data' check box enabled, and has only'with text' enabled, the new masters created in BPS gets saved to the infoobject? Is this how it is expected to behave?Is there a work around to avoid creating master data from BPS?
2.We have a multiprovider for actuals and budget. Budget comes from BPS which has only cal quarter. But the budget and actuals cube have year and quarter. In the actuals we are deriving quarter and year from trnasaction date in update rule. But for budget, we have only quarter being entered by user. Is there a way to derive the year and store in budget infocube so that reports derived out of the multiprovider can show year correctly for both budget and actuals?
Thanks
Suja

>1. BPS cannot create master data at all and that setting is irrelevant fo bps. Users can only forecast on existing master data.
This is wrong. If your infoobject doesnt have master data, then values inputted in layouts will be written into the infoobject.
>1.Does all infoobject used in BPS layout have to be master data enabled to avoid BPS created master data?
By this I mean, if an infoobject doesn't have 'with master data' check box enabled, and has only'with text' enabled, the new masters created in BPS gets saved to the infoobject?
yes
>Is this how it is expected to behave?
I think, yes
>Is there a work around to avoid creating master data from BPS?
The only way, i suppose, to create infoobject with master data

Function types for Balance Sheet Planning missing in SEM-BPS 6.0

Hi BPS experts,
After upgrading our BI-system from SEM 4.0 to SEM 6.0 (level 10) as part of the upgrade from BW 3.5 to BI 7.0 (level 15), the BPS function types for balance sheet planning are not available in the planning environment (Transaction code BPS0).
According to the SAP Library the balance sheet planning functions in SEM-BPS comprises of 6 standard function types - one of them is "Depreciation":
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60/helpdata/en/0a/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm">help.sap.com -> Business Planning and Simulation (BW-BPS)</a>
Menu path: Business Planning Functions -> Functions for Balance Sheet Planning
In our existing SEM 4.0 we are using "Depreciation" and the functions based on this function type are of course short dumping when executed in our upgraded system (SEM 6.0) as the function type does not exist here.
Odd though - we do have the function type "Allocation" available in SEM 6.0, which should be delivered with SEM together with the Balance Sheet Planning function types (It is listed directly under "Business Planning Functions" in the SAP Library) .
I have tried to figure out whether we missed out on activating something during or after the system installation, but our basis consultant has not found anything in the installation guides related to this issue. Also I was wondering whether it could be a simple matter of activating some Business Content but without any luck.
Does anybody know why the Balance Sheet Function Types are not available in SEM-BPS 6.0?
Kind regards,
Lars
PS: Our system status is:
SAP_ABA     700     0013     SAPKA70013     Cross-Application Component
SAP_BASIS     700     0013     SAPKB70013     SAP Basis Component
PI_BASIS     2005_1_700     0013     SAPKIPYJ7D     PI_BASIS 2005_1_700
ST-PI     2005_1_700     0005     SAPKITLQI5     SAP Solution Tools Plug-In
SAP_BW     700     0015     SAPKW70015     SAP NetWeaver BI 7.0
FINBASIS     600     0010     SAPK-60010INFINBASIS     FINBASIS 600 : Add-On Supplement
SEM-BW     600     0010     SAPKGS6010     SEM-BW 600 : Add-On Supplement
BI_CONT     703     0007     SAPKIBIIP7     Business Intelligence Content
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        Lars B Rasmussen

Hi Lars,
It seems not all the planning function from SEM BPS are available in BW BPS. Please check the links below: -
what is the difference between BW 3.5 BPS and SEM BPS 4.0
BW- BPS and SEM- BPS
SEM-BPS VS BW-BPS
BCS Doc
Regards,
SK

SEM-BPS-BCS

hi all i am bw cunsultant and now i am coming into SEM bcs-bps can someone help me out how should i start to learn.
if someone has the documnets please send to me
[email protected]
i shall then very thank full for you

Hi Sanjeev,
go to https://websmp103.sap-ag.de/bi -> SAP BW 3.5 -> SAP BW Business Planning and Simulation
Here you can find "HOW TO... Guides - BPS", "SEM-BPS ASAP" and other useful section with many documents...
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/ae9fba90-0201-0010-d490-cbf9a364de95
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements%20bw-bps%20formerly%20sem-bps%20in%20sapnetweaver%2004.ppt
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/frequently%20asked%20questions%20-%20planning%20with%20sap%20netweaver%20bi.faq#q-6
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/s-u/sap%20bw%20business%20planning%20and%20simulation%20-%20how%20to%20guides%20list.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem40bw/helpdata/en/05/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm
Regards,
R.Ravi

BW BPS vs SEM BPS

Hi Everyone,
can anyone guide me one the diffrence between the BW BPS and SEM BPS . Please do guide me if there is any site /link that provide the above information

Hi
From netweaver 2004 i.e BW3.5 BPS is integrated with BW and called as BW-BPS, prior to this it is part of SEM and called as SEM-BPS
go through this previous thread on similar query
BW-BPS and SEM_BPS
and this Release Notes for SAP NetWeaver '04
Business Information Warehouse
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/5d/3c51403ab46f13e10000000a1550b0/RN_BW_EN.pdf
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements%20bw-bps%20formerly%20sem-bps%20in%20sapnetweaver%2004.ppt#275,21,New functionalities delivered in SEM Support Packages
will give u clear idea
Regards
Kiran
Message was edited by: ravi kiran naalla

Looking for SEM-BPs Bw doc's and Traig material

Hi All
Guys please help me for BW BPS Training Material and Doc's
Thanks
Stob

Besides the How-to-Guides available in SDN, you can also refer help.sap.com
Goto SAP Netweaver> Information Integration>BW>BPS
To get a SEM oriented perspective, you can visit service.sap.com/sem; documentation on SEM-BPS is available there
Also, in help.sap.com....... if you go to mySAP ERP ; you can goto SEM and refer the BPS details there
From my experience if you are looking at help while doing hands on ...... help.sap can prove to be a handful
Cheers

BPS-SEM : Material or Documentation : Advise Needed

Hello Gurus,
I need some help in the below topics.
1. SEM Business Planning & Simulation (BPS)
- Focuses on integrating subplans for a business plan, such as planning results, overhead and personnel costs, investments, balance sheets, and liquidity.
- Overhead cost planning with primary and secondary costs
- Balance sheet planning using financial planning functions
- Personnel cost planning
- Liquidity planning and cash flow analysis
If you have any material or documentation. Please let me know.
I already got the SAP PRESS books for
CPM and Balanced Scorecard with SAP
by Marco Sisfontes-Monge
Business Planning with SAP SEM
by Roland Fischer
Also the below topics:
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- Assignment of data sources
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- Balanced Scorecard design
- Risk Management application
- Risk Management design
- Management Cockpit application
- Management Cockpit design
- Value Driver Tree application
- Value Driver Tree design
As always thanks for your help.
Senthil

Hi Senthil,
Please check the links may be helpful.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/s-u/sap%20bw%20business%20planning%20and%20simulation%20-%20how%20to%20guides%20list.htm
https://media.sdn.sap.com/public/eclasses/teched04/BW253_files/Default.htm#nopreload=1
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn?rid=/webcontent/uuid/3040dd5d-0501-0010-baa8-fc0aafa88c40 [original link is broken]
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv235/BI_EN/html/BW/CostCtrPlan.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements%20bw-bps%20formerly%20sem-bps%20in%20sapnetweaver%2004.ppt
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/05/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/0e/8007dc83d011d3b72e0000e82debc6/frameset.htm
Regards,
Srikanth.

SEM BPS and BI-IP

Hi all,
    I am working in SAP BI 7.Currently in my company , project is running in BW BPS.They are going to upgrade to BI-IP.
I have to work in that project in couple of days.I am having only theory based idea only in SEM BPS and BI-IP which i get it from SAP Site.
    If the person in good in SEP BI 7.Can able to manage the BI-IP works on not.Please advise.
    Can anyone help me to give screenshot like how to create the planning folder and planning functions.
Regards
Palani

Hi RP ,
I think if you are good in BI7 and BPS part you can manage IP also
use the below links for more detail
BPS /IP Implemetation
BPS/IP
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Sandeep

SEM-BPS documents

HI gurus,
Can anybody kindly send my some documentation on SEM_BPS which is relavent to BW .
Thanks,
Naveen

hi,
also try download from
service.sap.com/sem
(now sem bundled in mySAP ERP)
-> sem in detail -> sem-bps
for bw-bps :
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/d395b590-0201-0010-a5b6-eaa878d295e9
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/98c4d590-0201-0010-e480-eca9942ffede
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/7c85d590-0201-0010-20b5-f9d0aa10c53f
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/110cd690-0201-0010-ef89-96ca36b903f9
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/4bc9d590-0201-0010-07aa-faf82d87eef4

Hi experts SEM-BPS

Hi Guys,
i am new to BPs ,can any one send me the documents regarding all planning functions with examples.
Thanks in advance
manoj

HI go thru this
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/webcontent/uuid/6e01a04e-0a01-0010-dfbe-951c2c39d169 [original link is broken]
BIIP...Here are the links
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/43/0c014016cd2bc4e10000000a114cbd/frameset.htm
BIIP
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/43/1d2440301a06f4e10000000a422035/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem350bw/helpdata/en/05/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60/helpdata/en/05/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/e5/f3892e5a66496592edcf62a2570ef7/frameset.htm
BW-BPS is the beginning of the road towards an integrated planning solution. BW-BPS is not purely financially focused. Some of the functions which were available in SEM-BPS are not there in BW-BPS. Follwoing functions which are part of SEM-BPS are not included in BW-BPS
Offsetting Entry
Accumulate Balances
Depreciation
Net Present Value
Internal Rate of Return
Time Lag Functions
Valuation
Allocation
Rounding
Currency Translation (Account-Based)
Please go through these links
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements%20bw-bps%20formerly%20sem-bps%20in%20sapnetweaver%2004.ppt
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/frequently%20asked%20questions%20-%20planning%20with%20sap%20netweaver%20bi.faq#q-6
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
Also there are some good threads on this topic
what is the difference between BW 3.5 BPS and SEM BPS 4.0
BW- BPS and SEM- BPS
SEM-BPS VS BW-BPS

SEM- BPS & BW -BPS

Hi
Iam working as a BW consultant, Iam interested in SEM?
In SEM different modules is there, like BPS, BCS, CPM, and SRM
which one is teh best for me?
one more thing what is the differnce between SEM -BPS and BW -BPS?
plese guide me iam bit confused?
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Trupati.

Hi,
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Atul

Any docs or pdf nor url for bw sem - bps ?

Hi all,
I am new to sap bw sem - bps? can any one share me docs nor url nor pdf? . how to learn and what is the significance of sem any recommended books?
Thanks
Pooja

Hi,
Try this
BPS
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem60/helpdata/en/05/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/s-u/sap%20bw%20business%20planning%20and%20simulation%20-%20how%20to%20guides%20list.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn?rid=/webcontent/uuid/3040dd5d-0501-0010-baa8-fc0aafa88c40 [original link is broken]
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements%20bw-bps%20formerly%20sem-bps%20in%20sapnetweaver%2004.ppt
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
JituK

SEM-BPS (planning area)

hi friends,
can u give me steps how to create planning ara planning level packages, mannul planning give me screen shots , so i can try my self, can u give me on ereal time example.
Thanking u
suneel.

Hi Suneel,
Please go through this link.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/bb/d6fd37c7bfc72ce10000009b38f842/frameset.htm
Also here are some links which would be helpful for you to get started with BPS
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/s-u/sap%20bw%20business%20planning%20and%20simulation%20-%20how%20to%20guides%20list.htm
https://media.sdn.sap.com/public/eclasses/teched04/BW253_files/Default.htm#nopreload=1
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn?rid=/webcontent/uuid/3040dd5d-0501-0010-baa8-fc0aafa88c40 [original link is broken]
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv235/BI_EN/html/BW/CostCtrPlan.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements%20bw-bps%20formerly%20sem-bps%20in%20sapnetweaver%2004.ppt
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/05/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm
Regards,
Praveen

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