Send IDOC from XI to an Third Party Non-SAP System

Hello Everyone ,
Is it possible to use XI IDOC adapter to send an IDOC to a Third-party non SAP system . This third-party-system handles IDOCs .
We want to do
SAP -> idoc -> XI -> idoc -> Third Party .
Any response is appreciated . Thanks.

Hi Rahul,
Check this out if it is helpful for your scenario:
[Connections to Non-SAP Systems|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/0b/2a6524507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm]
Regards
Praveen K

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