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I'm trying to implement a scrollable frame in a layout, so that it appears to be pulled out from behind a stationary graphic. It always shows up on my iPad in front of the graphic. I've tried to put it on its own layer which is at the bottom, but it still goes to the top. Is what I am trying to do possible?

They're called overlays for a reason. You cannot have static content on top.
Convert the image to an MSO, set to auto play once and that should do
the trick.
Bob

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Doesn’t anyone bother to read?
I’m sorry, but It’s getting quite frustrating answering the same question over and over.
We now have about 15 threads on the same subject.
If you had read back just a few posts you’d know there’s a bug causing this.
Bob

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Scrollable Frame causing viewer on iPad 1 to close

Hello,
I am about to launch my magazine on the iPad, just need to send the App for Apple's approval. Unfortunately I am facing the problem above when changing orientation on iPad 1, and I don't like the idea of launching a "buggy" product.
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You got a point here Bob!
My idea is to send the app with only a few (perfectly functional) articles for approval.
One other thing I can do is to not work on both orientations. I am using vertical and horizontal orientations to complement the content, on the vertical layout I have the main article and, in some cases, I use the horizontal to present photos as slideshows, scrollable frames...
But after your comment, I'll con tinue to try (harder) to overcome the problem.
Thanks.
Diego

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I've made some progress, and have also made some odd discoveries.
So, I was able to make the MSO work - but it doesn't work consistently. I went back to the original approach of putting the tab on the first state, and the videos on the next 3 states, This way the tab starts things off, and as soon as someone taps the invisible buttons to jump to any video, those videos play fullscreen.
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This page is the last page in a 9 page stack. When I "Preview" the page on Desktop or direct to iPad. the page loads up by itself and everything works great!
However, when I upload the whole article/stack to the DPS server, and download it. I of course have to swipe down from page 1. When I arrive on page 9, the videos work just fine, but the tab is gone on the first state. It doesn't render at all.
Once you click to a video, you see the "dummy" tab appear on those other states. Clicking in that place holder area to return to the first state where the tab should be removes the "dummy" tab, and the actual tab doesn't render.
As you can imagine - this is maddening!
Thoughts I have... could something on the other pages be messing it up? Possibly, but every page in the rest of the article have static content, and 1 scrollable frames. No other videos OR multistates. And all the other scrollable frames work 100% of the time.
Is there a limit to the number of scrollable areas and I've hit it? I'm going to start trashing pages one at a time to see if I strike a nerve. But I'm grasping at straws.
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Is it possible to include a button within a Scrollable Frame that resets the frame back to it's initial setting? I'm wanting to include a "back to top" button at the end of text in a scrollable frame.
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I think you pretty much nailed the workaround. Pretty clever.

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Good evening,
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Mediacross

No. Page navigation is about as precise as you can get.
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I have a magazine that worked find on V18 of producer tools, since I upgraded to V19 I am having ptoblems.
I have a standard page size 2048x1536 (iPad 3), and I have the whole page set as a scrollable frame with a background placed behind it. Then all my content for the page is pasted into the scrollable frame which runs much lower than the 2048 page length. You can then scroll the page within the scrollable frame rather than having a long page to scroll down. This also creates a nice layering effect where the content moves on top of a static background.
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Which totally sucks, BTW.
If you use JPG or PNG then it works but you lose the razor sharp text and pinch and zoom that PDF provides.
I really don't get this one, either. Especially since the scrollable frames option gives you the ability to make it vertical only. That should eliminate any "confusion" as to which way to you want to scroll and which way you want to swipe.
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I'm wondering if anyone else has this issue when previewing a folio with the iPad viewer.
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i had this problem once, in the folio producer have you given the folio a name, number and description?
also in the viewer on the ipad they are not nessecarily in the right order - so scoot about on it
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Where is the "Scrollable Frame" on the Overlay Creator panel?

I can't seem to find the "Scrollable Frame" on my Overlay Creator panel and now I'm caught in the middle. Is there anything that I missed? I can only see the following:
Hyperlink
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Image Sequence
Audio & Video
Panorama
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Pan & Zoom.

I know you mean the other Bob, but the purpose of that is to have something to align with the edge of the scrollable content.
Without the dummy content you wouldn’t be able to position the content. Try doing it without that and you’ll see the problem.
Bob

Scrollable frames. Buttons not working.

Hello.
I have a problem with buttons in the scrollable frames.
I have a slideshow with a thumb's. Each thumb consist of MSO (non active icon and active icon) and clear frame - button to that MSO and to slide foto. The thumb's grouped and placed into the frame with horizontal scroll overlay effect.
That frame placed into another frame-pull out tab, which have vertical scroll effect. And when I pressed the button, slide fotos changes correctly, but button MSO not working.
See files from dropbox -- https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rsbf1jto3a39jug/IVcQxaYJOW
Sorry for my english. I need help very much.
Thanks.

Hi,
I understand that I can use two 'states' of the buttons. And I tried it. But. Buttons renditions are raster images. And on the retina display we had bad quality. My target was to create vector buttons. With good quality on both displays.
Any suggestions?
04.10.2013, в 12:03, Christophe_Quinzoni <[email protected]> написал(а):
Re: Scrollable frames. Buttons not working.
created by Christophe_Quinzoni in Digital Publishing Suite - View the full discussion
Hi (again),
It seems that you built your stuff in a very complicated way.
First, try to make simple!
You mixed MSO and buttons functions. Useless and unfonctional.
Yous should use only button panel, with two different 'states' ('Normal' and 'Clic').
See below (no MSO function used at all for the button):
http://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-5735625-468602/445-605/Button_ 1.jpg http://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-5735625-468603/448-605/Button_ 2.jpg
Use the layer panel to easily select the objects you want to modify.
Please find your file here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46115208/slideshowButton.indd
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Hyperlinks in a scrollable frame moving on scroll

Context:
Application for iPad, created in inDesign with DPS.
Situation:
We have a table inserted into a vertically scrollable frame. On top, we have a series of links that correspond to the table text (please see screenshot below).
Problem:
When the table is scrolled all the way to the top, the links shift and no longer correspond the text.
Details:
The links and the table are grouped. They were cut and placed into a scrollable frame.
          The links work.
          The scrolling works.
          The links correspond properly to the text when the content is in the 'top left'.
          Scrolling partly up, the links are still okay.
          Scrolling all the way up, and the links scroll further than the table, causing them to be off.
Screenshot below:
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Bob. I think I found the problem -- the new guy hadn't removed the old scrollable frame from the text when he added the links, so the links were in a scrollable frame, and the text table was actually inside two scrollable frames.
Sorry to have wasted your time with something that turned out to be an error on our side.

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