Sending back to FCP from Color no clips no sequence

So I am sure i am missing the blindingly obvious but would appreciate some help.
I am new ish to color but have read the manual and taken the Macpro video 1.5 training DVD to try and get up to speed.... Here is my problem:
I am sending a multiclip sequence to color (1080i pro res render). The clips appear in color and i am able to grade and render all OK.
When i send back to FCP i get a new sequence and new bin labeled with the clips.
however the sequence is empty and the bin contains a bunch of off line media. I can locate the new clips using finder but they are roughly 4 times the size of the original....
Any help appreciated

What version COLOR? Multiclip is advertised to be functionally supported by COLOR 1.5, but it is not supported in any previous version. I am not familiar with the MacPro training DVDs, so I'm not assuming that it is tied to the current version.
When you say that they "render all OK"... are you sure about that? Why are the new clips about 4x the size of the original? That doesn't register as "OK" with me....
It could be a codec issue (doubt it) and it could be a speed remap issue (why not compound a known problem with another one?) and then it could be a renderqueue misdirection...
jPo

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Ok Shane, So actually just went over my Color outputs and I did render everything as ProRes 422 at 1280x720 ...and the clips back in FCP are scaled at 100% so that's good...for some reason I remember having some that came back at 133%...maybe that was just a couple clips somewhere that were wrong...I'll figure that out...but I didn't check Broadcast Safe on the renders so I guess I can go back and re-render with broadcast safe on...so we did shoot 720p HD and I AM going back still in HD from Color.
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Sigi
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Hi Hope someone can help. I send my (Clients) sequence DV PAL 720X576 16:9 anamorphic to color. BTW this was footage down-converted from HDV1080i50. Do all the color corrections and grading, footage looks great, send to FCP and hey presto smeared images in the viewer and canvas, thumbnails look ok in the timeline. Now what i mean by smeared images is not just a slight smearing but unrecognizable images, useless video.
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Next time I'm across the pond (not that often) we'll break out the Bushmills, unless its Jamesons.
Getting out of HDV first was done correctly. Personally, I think there is nothing else that you can possibly do to damage the image further (than the origination format), so nothing to lose by going to one of the Apple ProRes codecs -- your choice of Regular or High. There have been so many historical (hysterical) issues with PAL-DV it would make a novel.
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