Sending from FCP

Bit of a problem, I have been happily sending my edits from FCP to ST without any problems. I am editing in HD. But recently I had to capture a series of DVCAM tapes to FCP. In FCP the audio levels seem fine, but send them to ST and the level gets boosted by around 6db. The result is all the peaks are in overload. Any ideas where I am going wrong?

If you have any funky characters in your file path (disk names, folder names, clip names, etc) like # or / etc... you'll send Shake into a tizzy...
got anything like that?
Patrick

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The Color doesn´t recognize the clips´time when I send from FCP to COLOR

I have a big problem. When I send from FCP to Color does not recognize the mounting clips. In each plane is everything and not the s 2 or 4 seconds it had in the assembly of the FCP.
I have worked with Color more times and have not had that problem.
Anyone can help me?. Can it be the codecs, the times of the FCP, the settings of COLOR?
Could you help me, please ?

subpaper clips.
What is a "subpaper clip"?
By the way, all this nonsense about COLOR only supporting one layer of video... where is this coming from? This is utterly untrue... I am thinking of Stevie Wonder's song that states that when people believe in things they don't understand, that's superstition.
Rather than try to explain all the things that COLOR cannot do, maybe it would be easier to lay out the basic concept of what should be sent.
Very fundamentally, COLOR is a sequential-file (.dpx) color correction or grading application that has been modified to work with a few Quicktime codecs, and can accept a single sequence of independent media (discrete clips) from Final Cut. That sequence can have many layers, but it cannot have any nested sequences, and there still are a number of editing strategies within Final Cut that can be proxied, albeit inexactly, but occasionally not at all.
The safest sequence to send to COLOR from Final Cut consists of independent Quicktime Clips, all of the same resolution, codec, and frame rate, which should match the sequence settings of the Final Cut project. There is a naive assumption that anything that can be done in Final Cut can be replicated in COLOR and returned intact. This is absolutely untrue, and the evidence of that is everywhere in this, and other forums.
In this particular instance, "zotero"'s problem, while lamentable, is of his own creation by ignoring or proceeding without any preparation or investigation, and assuming that every editor's concept of what passes for the creative process has been anticipated and compensated for by the application developers.
To mark them manually now when already I have the definitive assembly is a labor of many hours.
Unfortunately, that may be your fate. Alternatively, you may consider the use of a "Media Manage" operation which will re-organize the independency of the source media. The Media Manager is covered extensively in the Final Cut manual. I'd advise doing a lot of back-ups before proceeding with anything else at this point, because it really looks like there is going to be a lot of trial-and-error in the near future... mostly error. Good luck with it all.
jPo

Where XML and related file belong when send from FCP to Color?

Hi(Bonjour)!
Where XML and related file belong when send from FCP to Color?
I want to start a fresh project and delete all previous tests.
Michel Boissonneault

Hi(Bonjour)!
I messed up with preference for home directory.
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Color timeline starts each clip at 00:00:00:00 after sending from FCP

When I export a sequence from FCP (7.0.3) to Color (1.5.3), the latter shows a timeline with clips of the proper duration, but with the wrong in/out. Each clip in the Color timeline starts at 00:00:00:00 of the source file, as opposed to the "in" I had selected in FCP.
The video originated as h.264 files from a 5D. I transcoded the files to ProRess 422 for editing, and am sending them from FCP to Color as such. The FCP timeline contains nothing but these ProRes video clips.
Thanks for your help...

any way to use an edl with these kind clips?
That poses an interesting option, maybe. For starters, though, the Send To... COLOR command instructs FCP to write an XML export that is decoded by COLOR, and that should take care of things.
There is a strategy that AVID users sometimes employ, and that is to export a CMX EDL, open that under COLOR and link to the media directly under COLOR (this works for RED flow). I am mystified as to why COLOR defaults to the first frame of your exported clips -- unless the time code is faulty in some way (or is not present), and so COLOR is simply beginning at the beginning as a kind of default.
Even if the in-point is wrong, are the clip durations correct?
Are you absolutely sure there is timecode on the ProRes clips? Apparently this is a problem shared with Final Cut Express, where exported QT clips always start at zero, but this is hearsay on my part as I have never dealt with FCE.
An alternate strategy at this point might be to export a complete Quicktime of your finished (textless) project, re-import it into FCP and "razor" cut it using your original timeline as a cutting guide. That sequence would go to COLOR with no issues.
A lot of users do this as standard procedure if they want to avoid a lot of "baking" and conforming if they've got a large number of mixed, or unsupported, media clips on a timeline. As a brute-force solution, its the Big Unifier.
jPo

Missing audio when sending from FCP

When I send my project to Soundtrack Pro from FCP, Soundtrack opens and loads everything up, but oddly some audio clips show no waveform, and contain no sound, but the sound is clearly present and working in FCP.
What could be causing this?

mrjam, I am having the same exact problem. I have a sequence in FCP and am using the "send to "Soundtrack Pro Multitrack Project" command. I have tried this almost 30 times now and only twice has it worked properly, i have no clue what was different these two time and tried to repeat the process the exact same way to no avail. What a pain. I have no clue why this function doesn't work. I have a mono pair in FCP and when i "Send to.." there are no waveforms in STP at all, and of course, no audio. Funny thing is it did work twice! Sounds like a major bug! Have you had any luck?

Send from FCP yields video but no audio?

I just highlighted a clip in the timeline using FCP 5. The clip contains one video and two audio tracks. I right clicked on the clip and selected "send to STRPRO multi-track project". Everything went fine except that the video came in but no audio arrived. Not sure what happened here. Shouldn't the video and audio from the clip show up?
thx
FC PRO suite 5

Well, in answering my own question, after several hours of research, it does appear that STPRO has some strict requirements with regard to the format of incoming audio. I finally got it to work when I modified the Final Cut audio tracks to non-linked, mono. Too much of a hassle.

Is compressor 4 introducing audio clicks on send from FCP X

I'm cutting up some DV copies of TV shows in FCP X for a showreel. Then sending edited clips to Compressor to transcode to one of the preset formats
"SD Video Sharing" for upload to Vimeo.
Resulting .movs have small but noticeable audio clicks. Not great for a music producer's showreel as you can imagine.
This started happening about a week after me starting the project.
I've tried rebooting, disconnecting everything, different drives, repairing perms etc
Anyone else having similar problems?
Thanks,
Simon.
Macbook Pro Late 2008 2.8 Intel Core Duo, 8gig RAM, 10.6.8.

People will tell you that encoding in Compressor will give the best quality, but that assumes you are using a suitable preset and for your length of video the ready made ones are unsuitable and will waste time as they are all 2-pass with variable bit rates (VBR).
For DVDs under 70 minutes long the best quality and fastest encoding times are achieved using a constant bit rate (CBR) of around 7.5mbps.
For your short DVDs you should achieve the highest quality and fastest processing by simply exporting the project from the timeline as it is, drop it into DVDSP and set DVDSP to encode and burn it at the specs I gave above.
Returning to my opening comment, you will frequently find that the theoretically best solution to a problem results in no discernible improvement but often entails a lot more work and time-expenditure.
P.S. You might get marginally better quality by raising the bit rate to 8mbps but you run a slight risk that some old or cheap players may not be able to keep up, resulting in dropped frames.
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Blu-ray send from fcp

Which is better? In sending a file from Final Cut Pro (FCP) to compressor (or Toast) to encode with quicktime conversion to Apple Pro Res HQ or to a H.264 file?
Thanks,
Lee

In the compressor window, it showed the main page and the chapters page (although that thumbnail is so small you can't read the chapters).
And of course it doesn't explain the 133 randomly placed chapters
Anyone know why you can't use the created AC3 and 264 in a new BRD?

Sending from FCPS to Color doesn't work (choosing Color is not possible)

Hi, i bought the final cut studio 3 update for my final cut 4.5 HD application and installed the full 47GB update and i ran all possible software updates. i even reinstalled my mac os 10.5.6 befor installing fcp. if i right click the footage in final cut pro for sending it to color 1.5 i can't choose alternative for sending it to color. sending the footage to compressor, motion or soundtrack works properly. i've never used colors befor, so... do i have to preset something in the settings? additionaly, i made a online registration for color, not for fcp. thanks for helping.
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Hi, i bought the final cut studio 3 update for my final cut 4.5 HD application and installed the full 47GB update and i ran all possible software updates. i even reinstalled my mac os 10.5.6 befor installing fcp. if i right click the footage in final cut pro for sending it to color 1.5 i can't choose alternative for sending it to color. sending the footage to compressor, motion or soundtrack works properly. i've never used colors befor, so... do i have to preset something in the settings? additionaly, i made a online registration for color, not for fcp. thanks for helping.
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To send from FCP to Shake can I send clips out of the time line?

My clips are coming into Shake blacked out- do I have to convert these to QT files first, and if so how does that work flow look like- would I overright the Shake rendered QT over the original clip in the FCP timeline? This doesn't seem too elegent, does Shake only take still images and QT files?
Thanks,
-todd

I don't use iMovie but there is a way to get .mov files out through one of the export functions (Share or something like that). import the .mov files into fcp, create a DV NTSC 48K sequence and you'll find you do not need to render.
Also, when you export .mov files from iMovie, you can filein directly to Shake if need be.
Out of curiosity, why are you bothering with iMovie at all if you're using FCP and Shake?

Is Compressor 4 necessary when sending from FCP X to DVD Studio Pro

I am making a FCP X movie and when it's finished I want to put it on a DVD using DVD Studio Pro. I have done this before but now I'm wondering if I should first export it to Compressor 4 and then to DVD Studio Pro. I understand that if I was puting it on YouTube or an iPod device I would need to Compress it however why would I need to go to Compresss 4 first if ultimately going to DVD Studio Pro? Would I get a better Codec quality then what I get from exporting in FCP X using their default Compression format i.e. Quicktime? Should I use an Apple ProRes Compression from Compressor 4? I guess I really don't understand the encoding quality options very well however I do want the best quality on my finished DVD. The DVD or Sequence is somewhere around 20 - 25 minutes if that makes any difference in your response.

People will tell you that encoding in Compressor will give the best quality, but that assumes you are using a suitable preset and for your length of video the ready made ones are unsuitable and will waste time as they are all 2-pass with variable bit rates (VBR).
For DVDs under 70 minutes long the best quality and fastest encoding times are achieved using a constant bit rate (CBR) of around 7.5mbps.
For your short DVDs you should achieve the highest quality and fastest processing by simply exporting the project from the timeline as it is, drop it into DVDSP and set DVDSP to encode and burn it at the specs I gave above.
Returning to my opening comment, you will frequently find that the theoretically best solution to a problem results in no discernible improvement but often entails a lot more work and time-expenditure.
P.S. You might get marginally better quality by raising the bit rate to 8mbps but you run a slight risk that some old or cheap players may not be able to keep up, resulting in dropped frames.
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Help!! Importing audio from FCP

Hi, I have final cut studio 5 and the problem i have is sending from FCP to STP.
In the last project i put together i had recorded a lecture and the audio was fine when the lecturer was speaking, but when people asked questions the audio was very poor. As it was a lecture there was no need to edit it so i captured the whole 70min video file in 1 go. I then split the clip up using the blade tool so as that the questions people were asking were in seperate clips to the lecturer talking.
I then right clicked on a question clip and chose send to STP, it went in but it was the whole audio file from the lecture not just the 20 seconds that i wanted, is there any way i can do this?
Cheers for your help with this
Chris

Hi Chris,
Had the same problem. This happens because it is a reference clip in STP, always looking to the original media file. Doesn't matter if you cut it in parts in FCpro: it always shows the entire clip in STP. If the original mediafile is long it slows down everything in STP particularly with drawing the waveform
Solution: finilize your editing in FCpro so you are sure content and lenght are ok; than use the mediamanager to COPY the whole project using 'DELETE UNUSED MEDIA', add handle length etc.
If you send audio files from this new FCpro project to STP you can work with you 20 seconds audioclip
Hope this helps
Bart

Cant get anything to render from FCP X through Compressor

Everything I send from FCP to Compressor gives the error 2045 after rendering.
Can anyone help?

You're using Compressor 4 right?
I think there was and issue with the FX Factory plugin. You can look in Library/Plugins. If you see it just remove it and try again.
You can also try exporting from FCPX to ProRes and manually running the ProRes file through compressor. See if you get the same error.
I think 2045 is just a generic compressor failed code. Unless someone know what it means.

Sending from fcp7

Trying to send from Fcp 7 but the clips will not display, I'm just seeing black frames.
I know that I can not round trip but it would be nice to send the clips from FCP7 to Motion 5 as the software has over written Motion 4.
This is the same on my laptop.
Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers Dwas - It's a bug alright, part of that problem might be that the codec I'm (trying) to work in is not present in the Pixel Aspect Ratio drop down. DVC Pro HD - Only one of the most established codecs out there.
Now Motion does not round trip and update FCP - "Media Missing in Motion File" - Sheesh!
Its going back

I want to send a clip from FCP to Motion

i am selecting a clip in my sequence and using the 'send to motion' menu but when it comes up in Motion it's not the clip i selected. It is using the out point for the clip i selected as the in point and making a new out point at the duration of the clip i selected.
anyone know why

Thanks for your reply Patrick,
No the clip has no speed alterations, the only thing bout it that i can see altered is that it a subclip from the original file that i captured in the same project.
Guess it might be a weird one then ay, there will probably be someone out there that knows whats up with it though,
When you are sending a clip or sequence to Motion from FCP do you need to have motion set up as the structure of you FC project before hand eg, ( DV- PAL) or does Motion reconize the formats from your FCP project that you are cutting on?
TH

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