Sending photos in body of e-mail

I want to send an e-mail with a string of photos from iPhoto showing in the body of the e-mail. I get e-mails like that all the time and I had no problem doing that on a pc but I don't seem to be able to do that on a Mac. My friend who had had a Mac before I got mine said that Macs can't do that. Is that right? I can't believe that's the case.
I want to post the photos like this in the e-mail body:
*

After copy-and-paste, then hit the return key, it should spit out my email address. (I prefer to use this method to disclose email address - it doesn't leave my address out there wide open for spambots to troll.) Then copy that email address to an email and try to send me a picture.
And you saw my "don't include the ⏎" that I put in there but shouldn't have in my next message following that, right?
You just want to copy and paste this:
echo 9274185136367780862791258724411398020885770P | dc
If you get an error message like bin: file not found, you may have a unix issue, then try this:
echo 9274185136367780862791258724411398020885770P | /usr/bin/dc

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      t_somlreci1 TYPE TABLE OF somlreci1.
DATA: lt_content       TYPE t_solisti1,
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      lt_header        TYPE t_solisti1,
      ls_document_data TYPE sodocchgi1,
      l_subject        TYPE solisti1-line,
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      l_sent_to_all    TYPE sy-binpt,
      l_msg_text       TYPE string,
      l_rc             TYPE sy-subrc,
      l_user           TYPE sy-uname.
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         y(1) TYPE x VALUE '0A',
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*& 2. Read the travel expense report from memory
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gi_html         TYPE          w3htmltab,
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gw_string       TYPE          string,
gw_length       TYPE          i,
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go_recipient    TYPE REF TO   if_recipient_bcs,
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*   TEMPLATE_NAME       = 'WEBREPORTING_REPORT'
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*         WITH SY-MSGV1 SY-MSGV2 SY-MSGV3 SY-MSGV4.
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        i_copy       = ' '
        i_blind_copy = ' '
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Best regards
Ove Bryntesson
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