Sending Synchrously in BPM

Hi All,
I need a help on a BPM. I am using a RFC synchronous interface, so I have opened a Sync-Async Bridge and then I have a SEND Synchronous step. In the Receiver Determination, what should be my Sender Interface. The Business Service is the IP, but no Synchronous Interface appears in the list if Sender Interfaces. Can you please help me out here?
Thanks,
Geetha

Hi,
I have a synchronous RFC which is mapped to another Intermediate Synchronous Interface( say ISI). The receive step of my BPM receives the request of ISI and is mapped to another Synchronous Interface which is a Web service ( using a SEND Synchronous STEP ) . After sending the request to Webservice , Webservice response is received . This response , after couple fo transformations is sent to the ISI Response from the BPM, which is in turn mapped to the RFC Response. Hope my explanation makes some sense. Now the problem is I am unable to do the reciever determination.
This is just a part of my scenario. I have to call another Web-service with the response from the first Web-service and the RFC Request. Thats why I need to use a BPM.
Thanks,
Geetha
Thanks,
Geetha

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