SEO - inbound links vs. organic site optimization

I recently started reading a book about Google, and even though I was already familiar with its origins, I'm still impressed with how they came up with the concept of ranking based on importance, and importance based on back links. And how they were able to build the first version on campus, etc.
I know enough about SEO now to be dangerous, and I know this scenario is hypothetical, but in hopes of gaining more insight:
Let's look at two extremes, not too extreme, just enough to show a large gap. There's one site thats built as optimized as it can be using CSS, a well defined structure, proper content with keywords, sitemap, the whole nine yards. We'll even give it a little extra advantage as the subject matter is atypical meaning less compeition for its keywords. The other site, has done everything wrong - little to no CSS. image buttons, no tags, navigation set up with no logic behind it, little actual text, or text reasterized into JPEGS, etc. Same topic matter.
The first site has little to no inbound links. The second site has lots and lots. And they're legit links - no directories or link submission programs - just real people who've posted link on their sites, in blogs, in emails, whereever people place a link that they think someone else would be interested in. There's a leap of faith here that so many people would be interested in such a bad site, that in reality people would hate to look at it much less gain any benefir from it.
So then, using the same keywork searches, which site will rank higher? Will the second site cause the crawlers to be so confused that they just couldn't rank it, or is there some threshold with inbound links that puts it over the top? There has to be some connection to the keywords somewhere I know, but maybe it's only in the link itself or anchor text.
Lon
PS Ive been curious about this for some time when researching keywork results for a client and some competitors cam up higher even though the sites themselves were clearly lacking by comparison.

Personally, I have a question about backlinks natural and artificial. I heard that there are software that create hundreds of backlinks automatically. Does anyone have any evidencethere to tell me some experience good or bad using this artificial mechanism to makebacklinks? I would like to hear from everyone, it is advantageous or not. I have a blog: http://www.jocemarburei.com.br/?p=624 and I'm sweating the shirt in an attempt to generatebacklinks natural for him, but it is very laborious. I wonder if it is not harmful to my blog if I use a software to do this work, since my blog has unique content and relevant. Thank you.

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i am working on the seo campaign for a website i have
designed and i am trying to acquire relevent inbound links. iv
acheived some success recently with getting the site listed on
relevant directories and posting informative articles on relevent
sites. i have been using the link:domain feature of yahoo to check
how many inbound links i have but despite increased links to the
site.these results rarely change. the msn equivalent seems to be
more up to date. what i was wondering is, is there a feature you
can use on yahoo or msn which allows you to search for a specific
link to your website to see if that one in particular has appeared
yet?

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>i am working on the seo campaign for a website i have
designed and i am
>trying
> to acquire relevent inbound links. iv acheived some
success recently with
> getting the site listed on relevant directories and
posting informative
> articles on relevent sites. i have been using the
link:domain feature of
> yahoo
> to check how many inbound links i have but despite
increased links to the
> site.these results rarely change. the msn equivalent
seems to be more up
> to
> date. what i was wondering is, is there a feature you
can use on yahoo or
> msn
> which allows you to search for a specific link to your
website to see if
> that
> one in particular has appeared yet?
I don't know, but Google has a lot of webmaster tools along
those lines. I'd
definitely check their offerings.
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Most of the art groups in our area have a page that lists all the other art groups in the area, and so this organization is suggesting we do the same thing. I know having other links on a site can help with our search engine optimization, and we are trying to drive traffic to our site, so I think it's a good idea. However, should I just copy a list of all the other arts organizations? Should I write to their webmasters and ask them to link to us? Should I write and ask for permission to link to them? I just don't know what the protocol is.
Again this is such a non-web savvy group, they know they want a website, but have no idea what should and could be done so I've had wing this thing. I'm a print designer and, of course, things are done a little differently with print.
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Generally you would have no problem adding links to other sites without asking. No website owner will tell you you can't as the more links they have coming to their site the better. I have always had mixed feelings on that type of thing. One thing to remember is the more external links you have the more work it is to make sure they all work. Dead links make your site look bad as well as bad for search engines so you would have to constantly be checking that the sites are still operational or the link hasn't changed.
So over the years I personally have found it better to just supply a small handful of links (maybe no more than 5) that I think will benifit my site visitors directly. Almost always it is a very well established long standing site so I know it is worthwhile/relevant and most likely not to dissapear.
Remember that when you do link to an external site to set the target to open in a new browser window. Also keep in mind that the more external links you have the more you are pushing your visitor to somewhere else.

SEO not working on my site snapas.dk

Hi, I have problems with seo in muse. This site " snapas.dk " dosent show at all in google, when searching snapas? All my pages contains the name snapas, and its added in metadata as well? What to do? Jacob

Thanks Vinayak, the problem is that i don't have any text besides titles in the website. But i just made a link to the website in Linked in, and this linked-in article is already working better in google search, than the snaps.dk site, i made in MUSE?
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Re: SEO not working on my site snapas.dk
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The domain snapas.dk was registered just a month ago. I believe you have recently published the site too. It takes time for search engine spiders to crawl the content of your website and index and rank on SERP's. Take a look at the following articles to begin with.
<https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/34397?hl=en>
<https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/70897?hl=en>
You might also want to register at Webmaster Tools and submit your sitemap.
<http://www.google.co.in/webmasters/>
We also have a dedicated article on strategies for optimizing Muse sites for SEO.
http://helpx.adobe.com/en/muse/tutorials/strategies-optimizing-muse-si tes-search.html <http://helpx.adobe.com/en/muse/tutorials/strategies-optimizing-muse-sites-search.html>
In addition to above, most of the content of your website seems to be images only instead of actual crawlable text. Refer to Google's Webmaster guidelines on best practices to help Google find, crawl, and index your site faster.
<https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/35769?hl=en>
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Vinayak
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Regarding iTunes U courses, would I be able to link to books/sites (like say an amazon hardback book or link to a kindle book they can purchase and download). Considering that not all books are available on iBooks I'm hoping this is allowed.   Also the p

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