Separate clips and Capture now

Is there a way in Final Cut 6 to capture an entire tape and have Final Cut break the tape up into individual clips up for you along the way? I've been using capture now and I'm getting a little tired of having hour long clips and having to pull my b roll cut by cut out of that. I don't have the time to set in an out points and batch capture. I've considered capturing in iMovie, converting those individual clips to ProRes and working with that but I'm sure there is a better workflow than that to get individual clips out of a miniDV tape. Am I missing something simple? Am I going about this the wrong way? Is this something Final Cut doesn't do?
Thanks for the help!
Message was edited by: soundman1024

Well, highlight your clips and in the MARK menu choose DV START/STOP DETECT. That will break the clips up into smaller clips...where every start/stop of the camera happens.
Shane

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Yeah, I was just thinking about that. I'm doing this on an iMac.
What's going on with Capture Now? I know staying digital would be best. But I'm kinda doing this project to give myself some hands-on time with FCP to get familiar with it. I'd like to capture this stuff through the Log And Capture GUI if I can. Sooner or later, I'll need to do it with something else (possibly an old VHS tape) where I won't have the option of staying digital.
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I've been working with FCE for almost two years now. I've had the same problem ever since-- The SPINNING PINWHEEL OF DEATH when: playing back edited video from the timeline and the playhead passes over various edit points, usually cuts. Is it a CAPTURE problem, or camcorder RECORD problem, or something else? I use a SONY DCR-TRV38 with firewire; FCE-HD;
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Hi Shawn.
I don't think there is a "known problem".
I assume your HDs are not more than 75% full or fragmented?
If you have not already done them, try the old chestnuts of Trashing the Preferences and Re-installing FCE.
1. Make sure you trash all 3 of the Preference Files as detailed in this article:-
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93690
2. If that does not work then re-install FCE but make sure you delete all the old FCE files first as shown in this link:-
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301182
Good luck.
Ian.
PS. When you write in with a problem, remember to give all possible APPROPRIATE details eg.
Computer model and external Hard Drive.
Operating System.
FCE version.
Camera type.
Did the problem suddenly occur or has it NEVER worked?
Have you recently loaded new Software or Upgraded ANY programs, Operating Systems etc.
Have you moved or altered your source files?
Have you captured the clips from a DV camera or an A/D Converter etc.?
Is it Standard or High Definition Video?
What type of files are you using?
Also include details of exactly what you were doing before the problem occurred.
Is your film hours long and filled with numerous transitions and effects etc.?
THIS IS A GENERAL LIST. SOME OF THEM WILL NOT APPLY TO YOU.

HDV Capture pauses in the MIDDLE of a clip and loses info.

Everytime I try to capture HDV 1080 50i, it keeps pausing out in the middle of a clip. By the time the machine catches up again I have lost a few seconds. Sometimes I get a minute, sometimes 5min.
It is NOT a start stop detection issue as it happens in the MIDDLE of a clip.
Capture now or Batch makes no difference.
It works fine on my laptop but not on my workstaion.
Using a Sony Z1 and other HDV camera.
I have tried EVERYTHING - Really. Really. Really
Used to work but doesn't anymore.
Trashed prefs and user data - that worked last time it happened (well trashing prefs didn't but User Data did) Different startup discs, different capture drives, different cameras, different tapes, different cable.
If I wasn't bald already I'd pull my hair out!

Hmmm okay. I've been using PP for 2 years now with the same type of "non-camera media" and never had a problem til now. But since then I've edited hours and hours of similar footage with no problem, so I may just suck it up and use something like Windows Movie Maker to edit the one clip that is messing up. Thanks for the help, and if anyone else has other suggestions, please feel free to post them

Logging and Capturing

As a result of this thread: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=3857627#3857627
I did a test of various ways to capture footage into FCP. Sorry for saying this again but I’m new to FCP - after 20 some odd years editing with proprietary, Avid and Premiere Pro NLE’s. I mention this [again] because it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks, and some of the bias that I’ve gathered along the way might show up in the way I approached this.
I have four one hour HDV tapes recorded on a Sony HC1; I used the same camera that created the tapes to down convert and capture standard definition NTSC anamorphic DV. Each taped averaged about 70-80 clips.
Tape 1
The first tape I logged the clips using the controls in the log and capture window. Fairly straightforward, but the HC1 was not very responsive to the J/K/L keys and the image in the capture window was very low resolution during scrubbing and searching. This made the process of logging slower than it should be. Once logged, batch capturing was fairly quick [about 1:12:00:00 to capture a 60 minute tape] and pretty much what I expected.
This was not a very efficient way to capture 70-80 clips, a lot of time wasted with pre and post roll. If you had fewer, 20-50 this might be the better way to capture but for what I was doing this was my least favorite way.
Tape 2
After entering the clip information into the log window I hit K key and capture “Now” button and captured the entire tape. I was a little concerned at what would happen when timecode ran out at the end. Nothing happened, it stopped and the clip appeared in the capture bin – all was good.
Once captured I created a custom Browser window with only the columns I wanted to log and make subclips: [following Steve Braker’s instructions]
1) Loaded the master clip into the viewer.
2) Set in and out points for the first clip.
3) Command-U to create a subclip.
4) Re-named the subclip, added description and label.
5) Click in Viewer and
6) Repeated steps 2-5 until 70 clips later it was complete.
Steve suggested deleting or moving the master clip, however checking the folder in the finder where the master clip was store revealed that this process didn’t produce individual clips. Apparently the subclips are simply pointers to the master file so I didn’t delete it.
This process was surprisingly fast but I still ended up with a single file that was approximately 5GB’s which made this process almost useless for working with subclips in Motion2 for example.
Tape 3
Marked an [in and out] in 20 minute intervals to create three master clips for this reel.
1) Loaded the master clip part 1 of 3 into the viewer.
2) In the Mark menu selected DV Start/Stop
3) After FCP placed markers at the scene breaks I “clicked the disclosure triangle” next to the master clip to reveal all of the markers in the Browser.
4) Selected all of the markers to highlight them
5) Chose Modify>Make subclip after which the subclips appeared in the same bin as the master clip and markers [note* at this point I checked my hard drive to find there was still only one contiguous master file for these subclips.
6) Re-named each subclip, added description and label and then placed them in a separate bin and placed the subclips that I didn’t want to keep in a bin to be deleted. [temp trash]
7) Highlighted the subclips that I wanted to convert to Independent clips
8) Chose File>Media Manager
9) Chose Use Existing from the “Media referenced by selected clip” drop down.
10) Selected the “Delete unused media from selected clips.”
11) Chose Clip Names from the “Base media file names on” drop down (Oops, sorry that’s for a PC) pop-up menu.
12) Un-checked the “Duplicate selected clip and place into new project.” This placed the independent clips in the same folder on your hard drive as the master file for the subclips. I suspect although I did not test it that if I had this checked I could choose a different folder?
13) Held my breath and clicked OK!
14) That’s when FCP started treating me like a total idiot “are you sure you want to do this, you’d better be because there’s no going back. Are you really, really sure…” Anyway for me since this is the only project on this machine I didn’t even read the warnings [yes I am an impatient idiot] **** the torpedoes full steam ahead..
15) Done! NOT Quite yet. You’d think that since I un-checked the “Duplicate selected clip and place into new project,” that FCP would be smart enough to place the new clips in my project window. Didn’t happen, had to control click and import files.
This process requires a bit more explanation. I had 16 subclips that I converted to independent clips, after which I deleted all associated subclips and markers. When I imported files there were only seven clips in the folder where the master clips was saved [now deleted as part of this process].
On further inspection all of the footage that I wanted was there, HOWEVER, by using the DV Start/Stop to create markers and then using those markers to create subclips if there are two or more clips with continuous timecode it consolidates them into one contiguous clip thereby defeating the purpose of creating the subclips in the first place. I’m guessing but if I hadn’t deleted some of the subclips I didn’t want to convert I would have ended up with the same large file with a different name.
The manual recommends that you delete the master clip from the Browser before converting the subclips into individual clips. I was suspicious of the need to do this so I left it and after the conversion it did what I expected, became offline. It was a good thing because I could use it to recapture. Also, any logging with description and labels etc is history it is not included in the new independent clip.
Tape 3 Part 2
I won’t bore everyone with going through the steps I’ll just explain how this one was different.
1) I didn’t use the DV Start/Stop option, instead marked I/O separately leaving at least 2 frames between edits to make sure there was discontinuous timecode.
2) I also didn’t bother naming or logging at this point and left whatever ridiculous name the subclip process assigned.
3) The settings in the Media Manager were all set from the previous conversion hit OK [this time read the warnings which would have done nothing to correct the previous attempt].
4) 12 subclips went in and 12 new independent clips came out.
5) Once I had the new clips I logged and added descriptions and labels etc…
Although this sounds like a very convoluted process, and it is certainly much more difficult than it needs to be, by the fourth tape it was predictable and quite fast.
I will say though that because FCP consolidated any continuous clips without warning you really have to pay attention to detail. And it would be nice if we could use the log & capture window for this process so any descriptions, labels etc would be carried forward to the new clip.
Certainly not as easy to accomplish as it is in PPro but definitely possible. There might be more functionality that I just missed, if so please let me know. Anything that can be done to simplify this would be helpful.
Mac Pro. 5GB RAM. 1TB SATAII RAID 0. Mac OS X (10.4.8) FCP 5.1.2

When you delete the master clip from the browser, you aren't deleting the media file it referenced. So the subclips reference that same original captured QT movie, it's just not in your project.
It will work. try it. It's how I've been working for about 6 years now. I don't have problems with subclips at all doing anything I want to with them.
Subclips are nothing more than reference files that reference a portion of a master clip. A Master clip is nothing more than a reference to the media file that you're capturing... it's not the media it's a reference to it.
Subclips are how FCP was really intended to be logged I think. I don't like long captures at all, and would prefer to actually capture the way you did the first time... but because it takes longer, I usually don't have time to do things that way. However, if you do things that way, you can add descriptions etc. to the logged clip in the Log and Capture window, if that helps your workflow.
The responsivness you lack with your HDV camera is because it's HDV... HDV doesn't contain all of the pixels of every frame, so to see a single frame the computer has to do a lot of processing to show it to you. It's an MPEG stream, which uses whole frame information every 8 or 15 frames only. The rest of the frames are the difference between the frames only on the recorded tape, thus the work and slow response to HDV logging and capturing.
P2 on the other hand, would make ALL of this MUCH easier to deal with. For one thing, each take is an individual file, and it's an all I frame format so it's easier for the computer to deal with. It renders 8 times faster than HDV does... no "conforming" necessary.
Jerry

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As posted by Shane Ross in another thread...(in case they refuse to name their clips)
"Highlight the clip and then go to the MODIFY menu, choose RENAME and then FILE TO MATCH CLIP."
Capture Now does not offer what you're asking for.
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This will help them to look at the footage, which pays off in the long run, by having a better idea of shots they have to work with and can save drive space by not capturing bad takes and such.
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I like to use the capture now feature when I use FCP at work? Someone told me this method of capturing works better using FCE. Is that true? Is there a difference? I sometimes get audio and video synch issues using FCP and capture now, would that improve if I got FCE using capture now? Thanks for any input.

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I am new to Final Cut Express 4 but I have had extensive experience with various Premier Elements, including PE7 as well as with WideStudio 10 & 11. Notwithstanding all that I cannot find out how to capture the DV tape from my camcorder (Sony DCR-HC40E) so that each 'clip' is separated. In the other products above, once you have clicked to separate clips, (by time-codes) they were all captured and recorded as separate clips. In FCE I tried capturing with Batch Capture but that did not work. Can someone please help me as to what i need to do?
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thanks for your suggestion. I did read Page 192 but was not very clear to me. Do I take it that first I have to capture the entire tape in one 'hit' and then segregate the tape into clips? With other programs I used, the 'capture' itself segregated and recorded each clip as it was recording/capturing the tape. The 'segregation' was based on each clip's time code. Is that not the case with FCE 4? Does that mean that I cannot 'capture' all my clips on a tape in one hit as i used to? Or have I misunderstood you response?
Thanks again
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How do I turn off whatever unnecessary protection mechanism is in place? How do I recapture my clips?

I've already tried both "create new clip" which created NO clip. The I tried "Warn After Capture" and it can't find the last second of video on the tape, so results in nothing.
I'm now into a new subject. I have created an EDL of the finished project and have tried to re-import that EDL into FCP for recapture. But every attempt to bring the EDL back in results in "Error Importing EDL" and I'm still screwed. Yes I have stripped the recapture information down to the most basic, cuts only, no effects, no filters EDL and it still won't work--I've made dozens of attempts. That may become another query on here: How do you make an EDL that will re-import into FCP? Stay tuned.

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Today I went to capture some plain ol' DV footage from my Panasonic PV-GS500 minidv camcorder and was unable to... sorta.
If I try to capture I get the message "preview disabled" and at the top it shows (AV)(Unknown).
If I try to capture now i get the message "Attempt to capture video without a video device selected. Please select a video device in your capture presets and try again".
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What makes it so strange is that if I log clips (monitoring on the cameras LCD itself) and then batch capture it appears to work fine. I can also send video to the Camera.
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shooternz wrote:
There is no chance Apple will do this. Forgedaboutit.
You dont need to use the QT player at all in your Premiere editing workflow is the advice that Jim and I are telling you.
Okay, I'm now going to do an about face and revise my workflow routine to start in Premiere.
"Copy entire AVCHD file from your card to your local hard drive ( not C;)
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Go to the Media Browser Panel
Locate your Source footage on the local hard drive directory.
Click down to the individual source clips. Where varies a little depending on camera but eg. VideoStream
Import into Premiere. ( one way..Drag them to a Folder in the Project Window eg "Holiday Clips""....
... Keep all your source files exactly how they came of the card ( camera card) on your local hard drive.
THey will be individual files in side Premiere.
Dont mess around trawling through them, viewing them in an external player and sorting them.. You will bust something!
The place to sort your files is in the Bins in a Premiere Project.
Basically...Edit in the editing Application. (Premiere)
Thanks shooternz et. al.,
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Capturing "Now" FCP automaticly making multiple clips

When capturing "Now" FCP is cutting a single clip into multiple clips during capture, on its own. Any suggestions?
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Hi,
it does seem unlikely, but sometimes FCP breaks up continuous shots when working with HDV. Most of the time, this happens towards the end of a shot, so I end up with 3-4 seconds of the first shot.
Very rarely, that happens with MiniDV, too. The TC seems to be fine, but there may be minor problems, and FCP seems to be a bit picky when it comes to that, so you get a TC break when (at least on your deck) there seems to be a continuous TC. And HDV is even worse than DV. But that's just my own experience. Maybe its as simple as your playhead being clogged up?
Cheers,
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