Sequence dependent setup (setuo matrix) with pooled capacity

Hi all,
We are facing a problem in the sequence dependent setup. We have a pooled capacity in ECC on which we want sequence dependent setup happening in APO. In APO orders are required to be scheduled on this resource and this resource is the primary resource. When I am trying to do the Detailed scheduling the time from the matrix is the one in which there is no predecessor.
Is sequence dependent setup not possible with pooled resource. Is it the standard system behaviour or am I missing something here.
Thanx for the help.

Insted of making pooled capacity you better try with alternate sequence.
system is behaving properly.

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we're implementing Oracle ASCP in our company based in Italy.
Currently we're not using MAnufacturing Scheduling.
We also use Discrete Manufacturing in a constraint based plan enviroment.
We have a painting department with a painting machine used to paint many different items but with only 3 colors.
I would like to now if it's possible to let the ASCP schedule work orders for this department, considering that the resource PAINTINGMACHINE has sequence dependent setup (white, black, gray).
We don't want the ASCP to plan work orders in the following way:
for tomorrow, make 3 pieces of item A white, 2 pcs of X black, 1 pc of C white and so on...
we would like to have this kind of situation:
make 3 of A white, 1 of B white, 10 of C white....5 of T white....then 10 of X black, 15 of Y black and so on....
If we configure the PAINTINGMACHINE resource with 3 different setup type and we add some CHANGEOVERS with PENALTY factor,
will the ASCP plan the work orders considering this parameters or not?
We don't want to use Manufacturing Scheduling module, cause we are a not so big company and we would like to have the Planning Manager, plan/schedule the production.
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I am trying to activate pooled capacity.
I have created a capacity in cr11 with pooled capacity ticked and capacity category person
but when i try to create a work center in cr01, in the capacity tab capacity pool is greyed out
I gave capacity category , then also it is greyed out .
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Dear,
Create the pooled capacity using transaction CR11, and in the capacity header, "Pooled Capacity" check box is to be activated.
and then assigned to the work-center capacity tab - Pooled Capacity field.
Now Create/Change Work center - Capacity Tab page:
If your default work center/default capacity does not allow the Pooled Capacity then go to Edit and Delete the Capacity.
Now again Edit--> New Entries, Enter the Capacity Category and Pooled Capacity just now created.
In the Capacity Over view you will get the Pooled Capacity Checked and new capacity for you.
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1) We have eg. a common pool of welders for Location A and Location B welding work centers. How do we setup the pooled capacity and assign to them?
2) We have eg. 2 CNC machining work centers (Vert and Horiz) but we have labour support to do machine setup, labour related jobs etc. If we need to perform labour capacity planning in this machine-based work center, is this done by maintaining a separate work center for this labour support and assigned to the same Cost Center? Or for machine-based work center, labour capacity planning is not required?
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We have eg. a common pool of welders for Location A and Location B welding work centers. How do we setup the pooled capacity and assign to them?
There is no differnce between pooled capacity and available caapcity .Only thing is you can utilised this capacity pool for various work centre level.
To do that , Goto - SPRO-Production -BAsic Data-Work center-Capacity Planning-Define Capacity categories -Create Capacity Categoery for common pool of welders , Create Capacity in CR11 and assing them into Work cetre Capaicty tab-Pooled Capacity Catogeries and maintian No of indivuial caapcity in Capacity Header -Standard Available caapcity-Indivual Capacity ( Total Number of welders with working timing , utilisation ) .
Quest2 : To address this issue , you can select Setup , Labour and Machine in Defalut tab of same Work centre with proper Standard Value Key .Now , as they are all part of the Production activity , so you can keep the same Cost Centre ( Production Cost Centre ) in the Work centre tab with Formula Key of Labour ,Machine and setup .Goto CR02-Default Tab and Costing tab .
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1) In SNP one performs SOP planning with common goals to adjust sales plan, establish equipment maintenance plan, transportation plan, etc. The first month of the SNP plan is supposed to be in daily buckets. Using the SNP optimizer is a good option since the business goal is to use equipment more efficiently, let's say to minimize setup costs, and there are warehouse limitations for semifinished products as well.
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At a client site am using Pooled capacity at Work centers(SAP resources) to help capacity planning with some pooled resources. So during planned order scheduling or in production(process) order the time required to complete the operation is higher than the Recipe(Route) time.
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Edited by: raghu m on Nov 26, 2009 4:11 PM

Hello Mr. Bramhnakar,
Thanks for your reply,
Yes i have tried the settings you mentioned.
My doubts are :
Should the Pooled capacity be getting calculated in Scheduling.
Since I gave capacity formulas, for both capacities in Work Center,
and scheduling formula in scheduling tab.
In routing i gave 12 Hr machine and 16 Hr in Labor (Pooled),
In Planned order, I can see the Both Taming, But after converting it to Prod Order, In Operation details tab->dates, i cansee the scheduling on the Machine Time, for which i gave formula in WC--Scheduling tab. This is confusing for me since in Planned order i cud find both but in Production order i found One,
In Routing i have activated Req. Overlapping.
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I did this bse the all order were followin in diff dates.
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