Sequence Settings and Aspect Ratios

This may be a bit of dumbo pondering but I've got a couple questions:
My HV20 camera has a DV 16:9 setting. I always use the HD setting. But if I captured such footage, what Sequence Settings would one use? If DV Anamorphic, doesn't that stretch things out? So maybe a Custom choice in Frame Setting of 640x360?
What is the reasoning for the DV Anamorphic Seq Setting to use the 3:2 Aspect Ratio (default) over the 4:3? Isn't the 3:2 converted to 4:3 when exported to dv tape, etc? But what about for internet, would 4:3 Ratio Aspect in Anamorphic (for eventually 640x360 internet movies) be a good choice?
But would that only be appropriate for Internet and if I had any hopes of other uses would 3:2 still be wisest?
What got me thinking (if you can call it that) was that I placed an animation from Archive.org in a DV Ana 3:2 Sequence. To fill the screen, Scale had to be 113, Clip Aspect Ratio: 13. Then I changed the settings to 4:3 aspect ratio and the clip fit perfectly (Scale: 100, Clip Aspect Ratio: 0).
So why not use a non-Anamorphic Seq Setting with a custom 16x9 Frame Size of 640x360?
Maybe I'm thinking too much...or not thinking at all.
How bout shining a little light in this dark closet!
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Elmer Lang
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if I captured such footage, what Sequence Settings would one use?
DV Anamorphic
If DV Anamorphic, doesn't that stretch things out?
Yes ... DV 16:9 is recorded squished into a 4:3 frame so it needs to be stretched back out to 16:9 to display accurately
So maybe a Custom choice in Frame Setting of 640x360?
No, just use the DV Anamorphic Easy Setup
What is the reasoning for the DV Anamorphic Seq Setting to use the 3:2 Aspect Ratio (default) over the 4:3? Isn't the 3:2 converted to 4:3 when exported to dv tape, etc? But what about for internet, would 4:3 Ratio Aspect in Anamorphic (for eventually 640x360 internet movies) be a good choice?
But would that only be appropriate for Internet and if I had any hopes of other uses would 3:2 still be wisest?
What got me thinking (if you can call it that) was that I placed an animation from Archive.org in a DV Ana 3:2 Sequence. To fill the screen, Scale had to be 113, Clip Aspect Ratio: 13. Then I changed the settings to 4:3 aspect ratio and the clip fit perfectly (Scale: 100, Clip Aspect Ratio: 0).
So why not use a non-Anamorphic Seq Setting with a custom 16x9 Frame Size of 640x360?
Maybe I'm thinking too much...or not thinking at all.
How bout shining a little light in this dark closet!
A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing! You are trying way too hard.

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