Sequence w 23.976 fps exporting as h.264 QT with 22.69fps

I exported an h.264 QuickTime from Premiere Pro CC (Mac). The project/sequence was set to 23.976 fps. The export settings for the QuickTime was also set to 23.976 fps. However, the QuickTime that was created had a frame rate of 22.69fps. I have never had an issue like this before.
I had Premiere add the QuickTime to the project on export. That QuickTime file displayed 23.976 fps in the Premiere Pro Project Panel. However, the same QuickTime is showing as 22.69fps on the QuickTime inspector in QuickTime, as well as a third party application.
The odd thing is, after several attempts with the above set up, sometimes the exported QuickTime has the correct frame rate of 23.976 fps and sometimes the exported QuickTime has a frame rate of 22.69fps (incorrect), so it is not consistent.
I have reported this issue to Adobe. The Adobe tech, via a screen sharing session, also noticed this inconsistency first-hand and agreed there was an issue of some kind.
Does anyone have any ideas what could be going on?

any ideas what could be going on?
You're using QuickTime. It's buggy.

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It's probably just a counting error. AE, like many applications that work with video, begins with frame ZERO, not frame one.
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dear all ...
i have a project that shot on RED with 23.976 fps ... the final out put will be to film ... so what is the right workflow to do so? can i work directly on this frame rate or i should convert to 24 fps? or i just export to DPX with 24 fps settings? if i want to convert 23.976 fps footage to 24 fps, what should i do? just use interpret footage?
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> if i want to convert 23.976 fps footage to 24 fps, what should i do? just use interpret footage?
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I've tried numerous times and checked all my settings. I can't figure out why the new DPX sequence is not 23.976 fps. Any ideas what I am doing wrong here?
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Hi there.
I am having the same exact problem, in CS6.
BUT, I have exported this project countless times, and only after my last edit has it started to export at 29. My entire movie is in 23.97. I have tried interpreting the one clip that is 29, but this does not help. It will not allow me to interpret the whole project at once.
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Hi,
first, sorry if my english sucks jajaa i speach spanish, havent practice my english for a while.
first i edited my video in premier cc
sequence 1280X720, 59,94 fps
48000hz - stereo
the i linked it with dynamik link to after, make some color correction, etc etc etc
i renderd in quicktime animation
my video looks fine in my computer, but when i send my .mov video to encore (cs6) in a HD MENU and standard menú, the image sucks.
i have done the transcoding in encore, but i doesnt work either. i dont know what else to do.

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i didn't read the forum i linked, so yes, i was wrong in the way adobe converts it to 29.97, pulldown vs added frame. the output file will be reported as 29.97, but mediainfo can see the flags and reports it as 23.976 with 2:3 pulldown. when i look at the .m2v file from premiere, frame by frame i can see the two interlaced frames from pulldown. so are those true interlaced frames or does the media player program generate those interlaced frames as a result of the flag telling it to?
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Video: MPEG2 Video 720x480 29.97fps 7000kbps [Video]
Audio: PCM 48000Hz stereo 1536kbps [A: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 1536 kb/s]
mediainfo:
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: 23.976 fps
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No sync with audio for input files AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps.
If i open in Premiere Pro CC any file AVI MPEG4 23.976 fps (with internal audio MP3 or AC3) i got growing out of sync from start to end of file, even while play it at internal media player of Premiere Pro CC for source file.
Using external audio files AC3 or MP3 not help.
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If i try Clip > Modify > Interpreter Footage > custom settings to 23.976 time i see right time, but when i click "OK", custom fps saved as 23.98 fps instead of 23.976 fps and time of source goes wrong again.
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XviD and DivX it is MPEG4.
Xvid (formerly "XviD") is a video codec library following the MPEG-4 standard, specifically MPEG-4 Part 2 Advanced Simple Profile (ASP).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvid
I have many old useful materials in XviD and DivX formats, and have no other formats versions for that material.
XviD and DivX are very compact formats to store video at acceptable quality and it is fully compatible with all players and editors for PC except Premiere Pro.
You suggest to convert them to another format (DV) to make compatible with Premiere Pro... It is not what i want.
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1) Size of files
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2) Compatibility with AC3 and MP3 audio inside AVI
AVI DV / AVI DVCPRO not compatible with AC3 and MP3 audio inside, only with PCM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DV
AVI XviD and DivX can use AC3, MP3, OGG audio without any problems.
Size of 1Hour 30Min "AC3 Stereo 48kHz 16bit 384Kbps" file is 257Mb
Size of 1Hour 30Min "PCM Stereo 48kHz 16bit" file is 1030Mb
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http://www.matrox.com/video/en/products/compresshd/specs/
This card works only from Adobe Premiere Pro, so i can not use it from VirtualDub or other editing software.
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Here we see:
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.html#Supportedvideoformats
Supported video formats:
"Adobe Premiere Pro CC leads the industry with incredible, thorough native media support, meaning you can edit virtually all of the major video, image, and audio formats natively without waiting."
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Hello,
I want to add audio file from 25 fps to match with another video with 23.976 fps using Audition. How can i do that ?!
25 fps video settings:
General
Complete name                            : 01.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 170 MiB
Duration                                 : 20mn 28s
Overall bit rate                         : 1 161 Kbps
Writing application                      : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library                          : VirtualDub build 24415/release
Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format settings, BVOP                    : 1
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                              : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                                 : DX50
Codec ID/Hint                            : DivX 5
Duration                                 : 20mn 28s
Bit rate                                 : 1 039 Kbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.135
Stream size                              : 152 MiB (90%)
Writing library                          : DivX 6.7.0 (UTC 2007-09-20)
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : MPEG Audio
Format version                           : Version 1
Format profile                           : Layer 3
Mode                                     : Joint stereo
Mode extension                           : MS Stereo
Codec ID                                 : 55
Codec ID/Hint                            : MP3
Duration                                 : 20mn 27s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 112 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : 22ms
Stream size                              : 16.4 MiB (10%)
Alignment                                : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 40 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration             : 500 ms
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General
Complete name                            : new_01.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
File size                                : 557 MiB
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Overall bit rate                         : 3 228 Kbps
Writing library                          : VirtualDub build 32842/release
Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile                           : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP                    : 2
Format settings, QPel                    : No
Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)
Muxing mode                              : Packed bitstream
Codec ID                                 : XVID
Codec ID/Hint                            : XviD
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Bit rate                                 : 1 807 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 024 pixels
Height                                   : 768 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 23.976 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.096
Stream size                              : 312 MiB (56%)
Writing library                          : XviD 64
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 24mn 7s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 411.2 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 244 MiB (44%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration             : 500 ms
Best Regards,

Thanks SteveG,
Ok, What about add the same audio from 25 fps video to 29.97 fps video with settings below:
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Complete name                            : 01.wmv
Format                                   : Windows Media
File size                                : 259 MiB
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 1 501 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 1 507 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2007-06-25 14:54:25.750
Writing application                      : TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress Version. 4.0.3.169
Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : VC-1
Format profile                           : MP@ML
Codec ID                                 : WMV3
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint                            : WMV3
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Video 9 - Professional
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 300 Kbps
Width                                    : 640 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.141
Stream size                              : 224 MiB (87%)
Language                                 : Japanese
Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : WMA
Format version                           : Version 2
Codec ID                                 : 161
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Audio 9.1 - 192 kbps, 48 kHz, stereo 1-pass CBR
Duration                                 : 24mn 8s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 33.1 MiB (13%)
Language                                 : Japanese

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