Sequencing using setup matrix

Hi all,
We are able to sequence based on setup groups using heuristics in PPDS (either ascending or descending manner) but setup time is not getting picked up during changeovers from one setup group to other, as per setup matrix.
Any suggestion

Hi,
kindly post your querry in the ERP- SCM to get quicker response.
reg
dsk

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    Diagnosis
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    The resource does not have any free working time or capacity.
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