Serial ATA to IDE Ultra ATA-100/133 Mini Converter Board~ Is it worth it???

I was considering installing a Serial ATA to IDE Ultra ATA-100/133 Mini Converter Board to run my ultra ATA devices.
Is it worth the trouble or would it bog my system down for a small increase in transfer rate????
Thanks
DD

I've got two IDE hard drives that have the converter board that plugs into SATA on my mobo. I didn't see that much of a performance gain until I went to RAID. I had IDE RAID and it worked alright. When I put the adapters on, the speed increased by at least double. I would say this is due to a more refined RAID controller, though, but it definately wouldn't hurt your performance any.

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I am upgrading my wife's ibook G4 with a new hard drive but before I purchase one I needed to find out if ibook's use a parallel of serial ATA 100 interface? Thanks

jonnybegood89, Welcome to the discussion area!
The iBook uses the parallel ATA drive.

Serial ATA vs. Ultra ATA/100

Hi.
My Macbooks HD crashed last weekend (folder with questionmark, etc.) and I went online to find out what the reason is. After reading some discussion boards I decided to order a new one. So I did order a TravelStar 5K160. It arrived yesterday and when I tried to replace it, that the interfaces do not match. Looks like the new harddisk has a Serial ATA interface, where the old one had a Ultra ATA/100 (Check out http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/11/11/fastandfurious/ My new one looks like the one on top, where the old one looks like the one below.)
Is there anything I can do to make the new one working or did I just really order the wrong HD???
Message was edited by: Coolcumber

Hi Coolcumber and welcome to Discussions,
the MacBooks have always had SATA as the connection interface for the internal HD.
Can it be that the new one is a IDE/PATA and not your old one ?
When the new HD is a SATA the it must fit into the MacBook.
If the new one is a IDE/PATA, then try to send it back and get the one with SATA.
Regards
Stefan

IDE...ATA...Serial ATA...Ultra ATA.....Mega ATA .... YIKES!!

IDE...ATA... Serial ATA... Ultra ATA..... Mega ATA .... YIKES !!!!
Which one do I need for my Tibook DVI ?
I gotta order something quick to save my (computing) existence and am not seeing consistently the same terminology in ads. Some say one, some say t'other.
For instance, I get that a lot of people are happy with the Toshiba 7K60 unit and on the Tosh. site it says "ATA-6 hard disk drive".
But I can get a great price on the Toshiba 7K100 - which ostensibly would seem to be a beefier choice - and on the same site it says " Supports both Parallel & Serial ATA 1.5Gb/s interfaces"
Is this one and the same thing ?
What do I have to stay away from ?
Many thanks and à bientôt !

As far as I can see the difference between those drives is slim 12.5mm or ultra slim 9.5mm height. (Are you sure there not Hitachi?) I'm 95% sure the TiBooks will take the 12.5mm drives.I recommend looking in Apple System Profile to see exactly what model you currently have installed and then find one with the same dimensions.
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New Hard Drive ATA-5, ATA-6, ATA-10, ATA-66, ATA-100, ATA-133!!!!!!

I am looking on ebay to pick up a new/second hand hard drive for my Pismo 400Mhz.
I going to go for a 60-120GB harddrive and am going to settle for a 5400speed.
So I know i'm looking for :
60-120GB
2.5"x1/8 H
IDE ATA or PATA
BUT if I go for the ATA option what ATA do I need?
ATA-5, ATA-6, ATA-10, ATA-66, ATA-100, ATA-133?
An I right in thinking it can only ba ATA-5 or ATA-6?

Bluefusion:
You need an 2.5" ATA Hard Disk Drive. It is sometimes referred to as (P)ATA or ATA/IDE. Serial ATA (SATA) drives are not supported by PowerPC Macs. Maximum capacity supported by the Pismo is 120 GB.
Here is a list of available HDDs for your computer at OWC. Many users suggest avoiding Toshiba and Fujitsu HDDs. Seagates are highly user rated, have a 5 year warranty, but cost a bit more in general.
Good luck.
cornelius

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I am having a problem with the IDE channel on this motherboard. I never had anything to confirm this other than the fact that HD performance tests were always low. The HD is a 40G ATA-100 drive with an 80 conductor cable.
Well, I installed the Intel Application Accelerator and found out the drive is running in UDMA-2 mode and detects a 40 conductor cable. I tried to look at the BIOS and didn't see anything that would help this.
Does anyone know what I can check to see why this drive will not run at ATA-100 speeds?
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[EDIT] BTW, this drive is the only drive on the IDE 1 bus and the jumper is set as master. It is partitioned as two 20G drives.
[EDIT 2] I was incorrect, the drive is ATA-133, not ATA-100, if that makes a difference.

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Just a general query here about Serial ATA on the 6590 board (KT4 Ultra FISR).
I am hoping to build a system with this board and was hoping to start with only one HD, preferably an 80Gb Serial ATA drive. Does the promise raid controller on this board allow you to boot on a single serial ATA drive?
P.S. I was also hoping to add a Radeon 9700 card (not pro) but have read about many problems within this forum. Does anyone know if the problems have been cleared?
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Well, my idea was to buy a Serial ATA drive from the outset and use it as the only HD in the system. Therefore, it would have to start on the serial ATA raid port.
The only other boot option I can see which may be relevant is "Legacy SCSI". Doesn't sound right though. There are also a lot of BBS (BIOS boot specification) choices from 0 to 9 but I dont know what they are.
There are about 25 boot options including from USB CDROM drives but nothing specific to RAID!

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KT4 Ultra and new Serial ATA drive

Hi there
I've got a WinXP machine with a KT4 ultra, 2 regular IDE hard drives, a CD write and DVD (all working fine).
Yesterday I bought a Serial ATA DiamondMax Plus9 160Gb to use as a 3rd drive. I don't want it to use RAID, I just want it as an additional drive available to windows.
I fitted the drive last night, but when the BIOS runs through the drives at the start it didn't show up. I did however get the RAID utility come up on the screen, and by pressing Ctrl-F it allowed me to create a RAID array (which I didn't).
When I got into windows the drive couldn't be seen, running Maxblaster found a SCSI drive but thought it was 0 bytes capacity.
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And if so, how do it do it?
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Rich

Hi Sharp, thanks for the info.
I have the promise drivers installed, so there really shouldn't be a problem there.
Having scanned through a load of other messages on here, updating the BIOS has been recommended.
I was a bit wary of doing this as I have a history of messing up machines, what are other's experiences with upgrading the BIOS?
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KT4 Ultra w/ 2 hard drives ATA 100

Hi,
I have 2 hard drives ATA 100. One is plugged as master on IDE1 (40Go) and second one as master on IDE2 (160Go).
On the first one, I can activate Ultra DMA mode 5 while on the second one I can only go up to Ultra mode 2.
I tried to connect the second hard drive on IDE1 (still in master mode) and then I can reach Ultra mode 5 (first hd being unplugged).
So it seems that the ATA 100 is not activated on the IDE2.
I am not a geek, sorry, and I am wondering if there is a mistake somewhere (jumper to be set) or a bios feature to activate ?
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Hello Fred:
Have you installed the most recent drivers?
It is possible there is a driver problem. There was a driver release for Win2k in January of 2005 of the 'VIA 4 in1 drivers'
It says 'Enable VT8251 IDE DMA function under Windows 2000'
It is at this link:
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These don't do you much good since you are using Linux 2.6. You didn't identify your distro but you should check for any updates if you haven't already.
It's possible that the Win2k bug was also in the Linux drivers.
I assume you are probing the Linux message boards as well.
Besides this, I'm not sure what your problem is. You could try disconnecting the CD burners (slave) and see what happens.
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I have an older power mac tower that has built in ata 66. I have a large music collection (300 gigs) that resides in a lacie firewire (D2) external drive. When I make a play list, itunes makes me wait about 20 seconds to create the playlist which drives me crazy (spinning beachball). I also use the computer for logic pro.
I want to increase the internal capacity of this computer. I am wondering....is the external firewire drive faster than what an ata 133, 7200 rpm internal drive would be. Secondly, is ata 133 really that much faster than ata 66. Thirdly, does anyone know if drive speed has anything to do with the itunes sluggishness?
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Wow. I was thinking of posting a similar question myself. I have a G3 as a hardware router (for filtering) and I was wondering how to speed it up.
The research I've done so far has yielded these tidbits:
1) ATA 133 isn't much faster than ATA 66 for a single drive. Why? Most drives don't transfer data quickly enough to use the whole 66 Mb/sec bandwidth of ATA 66 anyways. The newest drives that have burst speeds above 66 Mbs could make a difference, but burst speeds are rarely achieved. I've been looking and I've found lots of ATA 100 drives, but no ATA 133 drives. You'd have to get a 10k Raptor or a RAID setup to see an appreciable difference from ATA 66 to ATA 133.
2) The upper speed limit of FW 400 is 50 Mb/sec. However, the data goes through the FW bridge, which then gets fed to the native IDE drive on the other side. This takes time. External FW drives of the same RPM and protocol (ATA 33, etc) are slightly slower than their internal brethren.
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ATA-100 or 133?

I'm contemplating upgrading the measly 40GB HD in my 1GHz eMac and believe I need an ATA disk but I apparently have ATA-133 and wonder if that's what I have to look for. I see a lot of ATA-100 drives around and not many 133 ones.
I've seen some other posts related to upgrading the HD but thought I may as well write my own.
I do have a 300GB seagate ATA-100 disk in an external enclosure and was considering swapping this into the eMac and then maybe getting a bigger disk for the enclosure. I'm guessing that it would work but a 133 disk might give better performance. Is this correct? if that is so then I might be better getting a 133 and sticking that straight into the eMac. I want the better performing disk to be in the eMac.
Any advice on this would be appreciated.

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I do have a Firewire DVD burner but an internal one would obviously be a lot neater.
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Difference between ULTRA ATA and SERIAL ATA

Hello,
What is the difference between ULTRA ATA and SERIAL ATA ?? Is the connector different for each type ?? Thanks in advance.
Robert Lespérance

Was wondering why you are considering a ATA drive? The iMac G5 als has a serial ata drive already.
If you are considering an external drive, then you have a problem. The most important thing there is that you get a drive with firewire interface because I think they are the fastest, but USB is an ok choice. If there is an external firewire drive that also uses a serial ATA drive inside of it, then that would be an excellent choice for speed. USB or Firewire are standards for connecting a peripherial to you Mac. An external drive will probably have a very common, read Mactor, WD, Seagate, ATA drive in it. The external drive case has a interface inside of it which allows USB or Firewire to speak with the ATA drive, any flavor. Some people just purchase a powered external 3 1/2 case and install the hd they like the best, that is the nice thing about standards.
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