SES vs Embedded search

Hi All,
I have couple of questions..
1. What will be the main feature of embedded search over SES?
2. My requriement is , for example i have a document like sales order and want to index , after initial indexing of all documents.
for example if we change only item level data, then i want to index only that part of data, so that means delta indexing at really the node level not the entire document level.
In ses what i observed is we always have to do indexing for entire document,I think in Enterprise search indexing we can define nodes with relationsihp , seems to be we can achieve this , is that right? or by SES also we can achieve this? i do not see any examples like that in Netweaver 701 release.
Thanks and Regards,
Shiva.

Hi,
you wrote
"SES can be used ONLY for SAP ERP business object, whereas Embedded Search can be used by SAP ERP as well other SAP Business Suite applications. Is that the only one difference?"
well you can use SES and embedded search not only for ERP, you can as well use both for other SAP Business Suites like CRM. But only in ERP there are out-of-the-box some business objects defined for searching via SES. SES and embedded search are part of AS ABAP.
SES is available with NW 7.0 and Embedded Search is available with SAP Business Suite 7.0 (NW 7.01).
The most important part is:
The successor framework of SES is "Embedded Search".
see as well
Note 1254901 - SES for customer projects on TREX search
Best regards
Frank

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