Set up a WDS with Express an DLink

Is it possible to set up a WDS with AP Express and Dlink 614+ or you need to use only apple products for that?
I would like to use DLink as an extra antenna for my AP Express.
KR

It is not possible to use any D-Link product in an Apple WDS, since none of D-Link's products support Apple's implementation of a WDS.
If you are in the market to buy a non Apple wireless router, get a Linksys WRT54G or WRT54GS - these two models do support Apple's WDS. Use that router as your network's "base station", and use the Airport Express to wirelessly extend the range of its network.
If all you want to do is extend the range of an existing Airport Express that you do not want to replace by a non-Apple wireless router, I recommend you spend the money to buy a second Airport Express.

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Please help me set up a WDS with relay

I am attempting to create a WDS with 5 Airport Express units with the main station being connected to a wired router (will this slow things down?) I used the Airport Utility to designate the main station in WDS and then scanned for another station that I set up as remote. Everything works fines at this point.
Next I selected another station as a relay and then selected the main station and the other ones which I want to act as remotes from the relay (not sure if I should include the remote that I already have set up off the main station as also a remote to the relay) But regardless this is when I get the message that I should not have DHCP and NAT enabled and that I should deselect the "Distribute IP Addresses" option which didn't come up when I set up the first remote from the main. I tried leaving these options both on or off but either way the relay didn't connect to the main however the remotes connected the the relay. (I have double checked that I have the main station for the relay selected properly.
I was confused that you are to enter a network name and password for the relay because I thought it would it would automatically be changed to the main networks names and password. (Maybe it would have if I had it working right) Since it didn't I attempted entering in the main network name and password but it didn't help. A relay in WDS doesn't create another network name correct? Computers can also connect to a relay? I also thought it was strange that when I was scanning for the stations that the MAC address would come up but the name would be listed as "unknown" but am not sure if that is a big deal. One other issue I was experiencing was that my PMG5 couldn't connect to another station after already being connected to one for some unkown reason but luckily I have a PB to work with that had no trouble accessing the different stations to then attempt to configure as I have described. I also wonder if it woud be better to kepp the PMG5 wired from the wired router and then also connect the Main Airport Express to it. If anyone can provide any advice it will be greatly appreciated! Thanks a million!

Sorry, would love to go into fine detail about this but I'm a little tired and frustrated at this point.
I'm basically having the same problem as robosapien. I just want to create this simple configuration :-
AirPort Extreme Base Station (main) <--> AirPort Express (relay) <--> Airport Express (remote)
In following various instruction manuals, common sense and logical experimentation I'm simply failing to get it to work. I've assigned MAC addresses, configured manually and with the set-up assistants but I'm begining to feel that the "multiple" configuration adjustments that happen when setting up a WDS network are somehow cancelling things out.
Here are a few things that are confusing me.
1) It appears I have set things up correctly in a single room environment with MAC addresses in the "right" boxes, main/relay/remote WDS settings assigned correctly and green lights on the 2 Express units. I then move Express 1 (relay) to another room and retain green light status. I then move Express 2 (remote) to it's intended location - another building, but with only 2 walls and 25ft between Express's - but I only get the flashing orange LED. I return to Express 1 and that too is flashing orange, as if Express 2 has messed up it's function when it was powered up. The network has fallen down.
2) When experimenting with configuring each station I don't understand why a single remote base station is in a mode classed as "Create a Wireless Network" as opposed to "Join an existing Wireless Network", but that second option disables access to WDS settings, so I'll hazard a guess that is used for bridging.
I'm sure it's probably all about the order in which you set up the base stations
and which base station holds which MAC addresses, but I've exhausted the logical combinations.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Simon
PowerMac G4 Dual 1.42 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

AEBS(802.11n) and WDS with Express or Extreme

This problem is making me doubt my sanity.
I have an Extreme Basestation and and Express and a new AEBSn.
I previoulsy set up the Extreme as the WDS master and the Express as a Relay.
Now the AEBSn is the master and I can NOT get either of the other two Apple routers to connect and function as WDS Relay stations or WDS Remote stations. I have attempted both using manual configuration following exactly the same steps I did with the Extreme/Express combination.
But it will not work. Neither the Extreme nor the Express will connect to the AEBSn. I do note that the AEBSn does not have a WDS page or tab in Airport Utility but I did select "Allow this network to be extended" and I selected Create a wireless network.
Does anyone know how to make this work? Does it work?
Thanks for any suggestions.

.. the automated system, i'm assuming that you mean selecting next, next next.
Correct - except the word on my Airport Utility is "Continue"
then after the first reboot and the configuration is loaded, go into manual and select "Allow this network to be extended",
Correct - and be sure to turn off Access Control and turn off "Create a closed network". Once you have both basestations configured and working, you can go back in manually and set those options if you need those two extra levels of security.
..it tells me that it can't find any networks to connect to!!
Always make sure you have updated the software and the firmware for both basestations and for your computers. There have been several Airport connect bug and fixes, both to the basestations and to the Airport cards in the computers. And make sure you have the lastest version of the Airport Utility.
(When I first loaded 10.4.10 I screwed up all my wireless connections. I had to go back, reinstall the OS and use the Combo updater to update to 10.4.9 before my wireless would work. Later, on these forums, I learned that the 10.4.10 update had some issues in the first release. About two months after the initial release, I updated to 10.4.10 - using the Combo, NOT Delta - updater and finally had reliable wireless connections.)
Once other note: I have done a LOT of work on my neighbor's LAN. I finally figured out that their ISP's modem had NATs and DHCP running on the modem. I could not make their network work until I turned off NATs and DHCP on the LAN router (bridge mode). Make sure you do not have DHCP/NATs conflicts with your ISP's modem.
Leave the second device unplugged until you have the first basesetation configured and you can connect to it wirelessly. Disconnect your Ethernet cables to make sure there are no conflicting IP addresses or host names.
Once you have connected to the first basestation, then open Airport Utility and wait for the second device to come up.
Do not double click on the second basestation. Just click it once to select it then click "Continue" . Read all of the options carefully. I do not remember the exact language but one option is to connect to or expand and existing network. Once you get to that point, it is fairly simple.
Good luck! Let me know if it works.

WDS with Express

Here is my setup. 3 Laptops, 1 console, 2 iMacs, 1 Airport Extreme and 1 Express.
I have the Extreme plugged into the modem and transmitting a WDS network as the main. The express is wherever I want Airtunes and is set up as the remote station. My problem is this...
My express is picking up all the wireless clients regardless of how strong the signal connection is to said client. This means that sometimes because of where the express is, it's actually non advantageous for it to be controlling my wireless clients.
Is there a way to make it so my express will only pick up clients when my extreme can't handle the connection anymore? You know... to actually act as an extension to a network?

If you have the express set up correctly as a WDS remote than no matter what it should be broadcasting a signal back to the airport extreme which enables you to use airtunes whether or not you are connected to its wireless or the extremes. I have a similar set up with a time capsule as my main and a extreme and express as remotes and that's exactly how mine works because I am plugged into the time capsule with my no wireless iMac but I am still able to stream to my stereo system.

Setting up a WDS with airport extreme and Belkin router

Hi,
I had my airport extreme base station set up with a linksys router (the common one everyone has) and it worked fine. I moved and now am trying to set it up with a Belkin F5D7234-4, and have not been able to get it to work. I have tried both the WLAN and the LAN MAC addresses. Is there something I am missing? Thanks

Unfortunately, most non-AirPort routers are not compatible with Apple's implementation of Wireless Distribution System (WDS)...so it very unlikely that your Belkin router can be extended wirelessly with the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS).
The few Belkin routers, that are known to work are models: F5D7230-4 and F5D7231

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See if this support document helps answer your questions about WDS. Wi-Fi base stations: Setting up and configuring a Wireless Distribution System (802.11b/g) - Apple Support

Cannot create WDS with Airport Extreme 802.11n and Airport Express b/g

I have gone through all the steps to set up a WDS with my Airport Extreme Dual Band and my Airport Express b/g.
Every time I try to set it up and update the AX the AX disappears from the airport utility and I can no longer see it. I can however set it up to "join a network" just fine.
Anyone have any idea why I cannot do this? I haven't seen anything saying that the AE is not compatible with the AX.
Ideally what I would like to do is have the AX extend the network and then use an ethernet cable to connect it to an imac g4, thus giving the computer "wireless" internet.
Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks

So just to clarify even if I was to buy a new "n" AX I would still be relegated to "g" speeds?
That's correct if you use the WDS settings on both the AEBS and AX.
But, if you had the "n" AX, you could configure it to "extend a wireless network" and maintain "n" speeds on the network. There would still be some bandwidth loss...10-15% or so...that's unavoidable unless you go to an ethernet connection method.
Do you think for my application it might be better to just buy a reputable wireless usb dongle?
If I understand correctly, you need an ethernet connection for a computer. Why not consider a pair of ethernet powerline adapters? One device plugs in near your AEBS and the other near the device that needs the ethernet connection. The pseudo ethernet signal is conducted over the AC powerlines in your home. This is the next best choice when you can't run an ethernet cable through the house.
This would be a faster and more stable connection than any type of wireless application. It's plug and play. In addition to the powerline adapters, all you'll need are two short ethernet cables to connect one adapter to a LAN port on the AEBS and another short ethernet cable to connect from the adapter to the G4's ethernet port.
Any electronics superstore will have a selection to look at. The cost is approximately $75-125 for a pair depending on how much speed you choose.

Advised to get an "extender" to be able to stream netflix, etc. through new digital tv. Apple store told me to buy Airport Express and set up WDS. Upon reading about WDS it stated cannot set up WDS with Airport Express 802.11n,

I was advised I needed an "extender" to stream Netflix, etc. through my newly purchased digital TV. Apple store advised me to buy Airport Express and choose WDS setting. When reading instructions on how to set up WDS it states cannot set up WDS with an 802.11n airport express, which is what they told me to purchase. How do I set up this Airport Express to extend my internet signal from my modem & airport to be able to stream internet capability to my TV?

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Express--Extreme--Dlink set up

Hi'all:
I have set up my express as a base and I extended my wireless range with extreme. I can surf internet, play music with express and share my hard drive with extreme flawless. I have all set up in my basement. I have old extra Dlink WBR 2310 so I think If I can able to extend my wireless using Dlink wireless router. I like to set up like this.. Express----Extend with Extreme----Extend more with Dlink.
Is this possible? OR my dlink router won't be compatible with airport express or extreme.
Thanks in advance.!!

I like to set up like this.. Express----Extend with Extreme----Extend more with Dlink.
Is this possible? OR my dlink router won't be compatible with airport express or extreme.
Sorry, but no. Most non-AirPort routers are not WDS compatible, so the chance that you can use the D-Link router to further extend your AirPort is not very likely.
However, it may be possible if you connect the D-Link to the AirPort Extreme by wire (Ethernet).

Can I set up a WDS network with two main base stations?

I have an AEBS in the main part of the house and a time capsule in the office in the back of the house, currently with one internet connection (it's cable modem) into to the AEBS. I have tried to use relays (two airport expresses) in a WDS to have the internet connection reach the time capsule, but unfortunately the distance is too great and it won't make it.
I can move the internet connection and AEBS into the middle of the house and everything would be fine (one internet connection into the house, no need for relays to reach the time capsule), but this requires rewiring the cable connection and adding a power outlet, which seems like a lot of work.
My other option is to simply have another internet connection hardwired into the office. This would be using the same cable that comes into the house and is split outside. If I go this route--my question is--can I get the time capsule and the AEBS be on the same WDS network (same name, same passwords?), or will I have two separate networks in the house? If it is the former--how do I set it up? Can I have a WDS with two main base stations? Or is there an easier route?
Thanks the help and advice...

My other option is to simply have another internet connection hardwired into the office. This would be using the same cable that comes into the house and is split outside. If I go this route--my question is--can I get the time capsule and the AEBS be on the same WDS network (same name, same passwords?), or will I have two separate networks in the house? If it is the former--how do I set it up? Can I have a WDS with two main base stations? Or is there an easier route?
Just run the Ethernet cable from one of the LAN ports on the AEBS to the WAN port on the Time Capsule. Configure the Time Capsule to operate as a bridge.
You do not use WDS when they are wired together.
Then configure the AEBS and Time Capsule to use the same SSID, wireless encryption type/level/password. Have them operate on different channels as far apart as possible.

Problem setting up WDS with MSI RG54GS2 & Motorola WR850g

Problem setting up WDS with WR850g & MSI RG54GS2
Hi,
I'm trying to bridge 2 routers: Motorola WR850g & MSI RG54GS2 .
I set the MSI as the main router (it works better for me as a router than the Moto), and the Moto is the repeater. I have set it up exactly as the guide on Broadbandreports.com for the Motorola , and on Tom's Networking http://www.tomsnetworking.com/2004/04/14/how_to_wds_bridge/
The Moto sees the MAC of the MSI (Status is UP), the MSI doesn't have a page that shows WDS MACs . I know the routers are connected because when I connect a laptop to the Moto wireless network, it gets an IP (and the DHCP on the Moto is disabled) and the default gateway of the connection is the IP of the main (MSI) router.
The problem is I can't surf anywhere. I can't even ping the MSI router - which should be possible if the WDS works properly.The Moto Wireless Bridge Operation is set properly to Access Point/Wireless Bridge .
Can anyone solve this?
Thanks.

David, welcome to the discussions.
Are you refering to Airport Extreme Setup as the Extreme base.
Or are you using a 3rd party Router as your primary Base, or the Express as the primary base.
Read the supplied link, Not all 3rd party routers are WDS compatible.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2785566
Who is you Internet Service Provider?
What brand and Model Modem did they furnish?
Are you using Dial-Up...DSL...or Cable?
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303595
See if there is any help from this link.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=607414
Cheers Don

Can I set up WDS with a 3rd party wireless router?

I have an Actiontec 802.11g wireless router that is working ok but the range is limited. I also have an airport express that I'm currently not using. Can I use the two together to set up a WDS to extend the range of the network? The discussions and Apple help seem to assume that the main base station is an Apple Extreme.
Any guidance and specific setup instructions would be appreciated.

Hi again kenkarno,
So the whole idea of WDS (Wireless Distribution System) is to enable you to use multiple devices (i.e. Wireless Routers) on the same network.
For example if you set up a wireless network called "kenkarno" but your original router wasn't powerful to cover the desired area, you could add further routers to the same "kenkarno" network as opposed to creating a multitude of networks for each router. The obvious advantage is that if you're out of range of one router you're in range of another without having to switch networks.
At the moment WDS is very proprietary (hence my first post) so it is common when trying to set up a WDS composed of different brand routers, you may not get them to talk to one another due to incompatibilities in their software.
In your case, it could be that your Actiontec router will not be able to form part of a WDS with your AE so your suggestion of using ethernet between the Actiontec and the AE could be the way to go here (although you'd have two separate networks). If you went for a second AE you could create a WDS between this and your existing one which may make life a little easier.
Hope it works out

Problems setting up WDS with AE

I recently had some problems with my home network and performed a hard reset on both of my AE base stations in order to reconfigure the network. I am trying to set up a WDS network with the two AE's (one being connected to the internet and the other serving as a remote to extend the range and use AirTunes function). When using Airport Utility and going through the setup process, I set up the primary AE with the connection to the internet. I am then using Airport Utility to try and configure the second AE to join the main network, but AU is not allowing the remote AE to connect/join the primary network. I keep getting an error message saying that the Apple wireless device could not join the WDS network and that I should close Airport Utility and try again. I have tried this a number of times, as well as performing more hard resets of both AE's and nothing seems to be working - any suggestions??
This is the first time I have ever had this problem using AU. In past versions of the program this has always worked setting up the network automatically, but does not seem to be working this time. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks,
JB

You would get better responses if you posted in the airport section of the forum.
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=140

At home I have wi fi and want to set up an air traveller express so it works with my Ipad ina a hotel room when connected to an ethernet cabel. The instructions are not good any ideas?

I have just bought an air traveller express and need to set up to work with my Ipad2 when connected to an ethernet cable ina hotel,
At home I have wi fi and a cabled PC. The express instructions are'nt helping me to know how to set it up. Any ideas please?

Nigel123 wrote:
I have just bought an air traveller express
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Help- WDS with Extreme-N & 2x Airport Express with ~ 40% packet loss

So this problem is driving me crazy. I recently moved into a house that has enough metal in the walls (don't ask) to prevent me from using a single base station so I expanded my network as a WDS utilizing an Airport Extreme (mixed NGB mode) and two Airport Express (one as a relay and one as remote). The configuration appears to work normally some times but other times (especially evenings) I get a very high rate of dropped packets between the client notes (which are connected through the WDS-enabled Expresses) and the base station (using a simple ping 10.0.1.1 to check connectivity to the APBS-N). The problem manifests itself from a users' perspective as very long DNS lookups which causes slow page loads in a browser but it's very reproducible via ping.
So far I've tried changing the channels on the network but I haven't seen a huge payoff there. iStumbler reports no additional networks on channel 2 which I'm using, there are some on channel 1, 5, and 13. I've also tried channels 7 and 11. We have no microwave in the house and our cordless phone (5.8ghz) never interrupted with our simpler Express-based network at our old house, n/m the fact that the phone is never in use when we have this problem.
I don't seem to see the problem when I'm local to (in the same room as) the AEBS; it really seems to happen only when I'm on the WDS-enabled remote and/or relay.
Other data points that may help are that the AEBS-N drops out of the Airport utility at the same time. Sometimes isn't gone for 30 seconds, other times for > 30 minutes. The other base stations continue to report "Green" in that they are not having any WDS problems. If I disconnect the remote node the relay will correctly reflect a status of yellow, so I know it somewhat works.
It's an open network (no encryption, open SSID) so it's unlikely that there's an issue there.
Clients include an Apple TV, iBook G4, MacBook, Tivo Series 3, Intel Mini and Dell Latitude D810. Because of the diversity of clients I don't think it's a driver or NIC adapter issue on any of the clients.
Does anyone have any experience working in a similar environment? Suggestions on troubleshooting packet loss (or other performance issues) in a WDS network?
Thanks,
Mike

Hello errorsupply. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
I suggest downloading a copy of iStumbler. Use iStumbler's Inspector feature (select Edit > Inspector from iStumbler's menu) to determine the Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) at different points around your house, by performing a simple RF site survey. Within the Inspector, note the values for "signal" & "noise" at these locations. Start with your MacBook near the main base station, note the readings, and then, choose the locations where you have the relay and remote base stations.
SNR is the signal level (in dBm) minus the noise level (in dBm). For example, a signal level of -53dBm measured near an access point and typical noise level of -90dBm yields a SNR of 37dB, a healthy value for wireless LANs.
The SNR, as measured from the MacBook, decreases as the range to the base station increases because of applicable free space loss. Also an increase in RF interference from microwave ovens and cordless phones, which increases the noise level, also decreases SNR.
SNR Guideline
o 40dB+ SNR = Excellent signal
o 25dB to 40dB SNR = Very good signal
o 15dB to 25dB SNR = Low signal
o 10dB to 15dB SNR = Very low signal
o 5dB to 10dB SNR = No signal
If the SNR is 20dB+ at each of these locations, then you should be getting reasonable performance from your AirPorts. If less, either try to locate/eliminate the source of the Wi-Fi interference or try relocating the relay and/or remote base station until they are within a 20dB SNR range of the main (and for the remote, of the relay).

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