Setting client role in non-production systems

In our QA test systems of R/3 and BW, the client role in SCC4 was set to 'Production'. The reason I was given is that by setting the client role to 'Production', will enable some settings in FI such as period closing,and customizing settings remain open without transportable requests. I totally disagree with this. I worked on numerous projects, but this is first time I am hearing this. I always set client role to Test in non-production systems, without any problems. Do any one have any idea about this?
Thanks
Santosh

SAP have a concept of "current settings". These include things like exchange rates and other items which really appear to be configuration settings. In a non-modifiable system these cannot be changed because the transport management system tries to get involved. If the client is set to productive, this restriction is overridden.
I would always suggest that the QA system should be set to productive and non-modifiable to ensure that the behaviour of the transactions affecting such objects can be tested in a production-like environment. If you need to have your QA system open for any sort of changes you are exposed to having changes introduced in QA to leading to the impression that new/modified functionality or config works but when the transport takes the unmodified version to production you'll be in trouble.

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