Setting frame rate for project?

I know this sounds like a dumb question. I'm having a bad hair day today. Just bought CoreMelt TrackX, and it isn't working properly. Jump to Motion. This is a Cinema 4K project. I set the default in the preferences to Digital Cinema 4K, which is automatically 23.98 fps. But. When I look at my Project 'Properties' it tells me I'm running at 29.97 fps. And the Inspector won't let me change the fps. I imported a clip at 4K 23.98 fps, and exported it out as source ... and I get 29.97 fps.
So, I'm just wondering where else I might have control over the fps in Motion? Or why I might be having this illogical discrepancy?
All ears,
Ben

Shut my mouth. I set the presets to 4K. Then created a NEW project, and the fps was as it is supposed to be. I thought I'd done this twice before. Maybe three times lucky. So my question is answered, thank you, until further notice, touch wood.
Ben

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Well, I've been flopping around in different threads on this forum, but I think the question is beginning to finally take shape for me. Basically it's all about deciding on frame rates for four different cameras I will be using to shoot a 6-day intensive course I will be teaching. The video will be primarily for computer viewing (YouTube, Quicktime movies). Here are the cameras:
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Same as #3, but use JES Deinterlacer to get Sony 60i to 30 fps.(I tried this out, by the way, and the resulting frame rate, after deinterlacing, showed up in the inspector window at 30, not 29.97. Is that a problem?
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Not sure what you're trying to achieve here - for the best overall quality, if possible, choose a frame rate that all the cameras can achieve. That way you won't lose quality in the conversion.
If you're not satisfied with that, you need to do some tests to see which gives you the effect you like best. Nobody here can help you really - it's up to you.
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Standard frame rate for 1080p NTSC?

Hello and thanks for having me! Very new(b) to Adobe Premier, so I'll throw something basic out, thanks for your advice:
the short version:
What is the 'standard' framerate for NTSC 1080p? Does this framerate differ from what you would use for output at 720p,
and would you choose different framerates depending on delivery method (web vs. bluray)?
the long version:
I have at my disposal a very capable rig to work on, and just doing some basic editing for my audio CV reel. The source material is usually 1080p and sometimes 720p, whether it be streamed into my capture card HDMI from playback sources, or full production originals which I have scored for clients.
Therefore, while editing my reel together, I'd like to work at full 1080p and downconvert for smaller formats afterword.
However, I am very new to video editing, and not sure what framerate to work in. I see the available selections of NTSC 1080p at several framerates,
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What is the standard frame rate for NTSC 1080p used for BluRay or highbandwidth web transmission? Some are telling me 'use 60, its standard'. Others tell me its 24. Still others say 24 is only for working with film, or interpolating other sources to 'make your stuff look like film'.
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If you want to work at 1080p, your only option is 24 fps.
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