Setting loop points

I've followed sfninjia's Youtube video and set up my own EXS instrument for the first time ever - namely a Bass guitar. Everything is great - except, the sample I created on each note was 2 bars long at T120. so.....the note plays for a while and then dies. I have turned on 'loop' and experimented with different start- end points - numbers like 6000-9000 and 15000-25000. I have no idea what I'm doing, but it's fun. How can I make my bass guitar notes hang on 'forever'?????
What program do I need to visually choose those loop points or is there some other way?

<sigh>
Before I even opened this thread, I knew you were an audio guy
Yes, this is a common request amongst people coming over from the audio mixing and mastering world, and the short answer is that this doesn't exist in Premiere. Most video editors would never work this way, which is probably the primary reason that there isn't even an option for it. I'd be willing to bet that 99.99% of us crazy folk would disable this, and I might be underestimating
That said, filing a feature request is the best way to let the engineering team know what you're interested in seeing in the product. Granted, it's not immediate gratification, but we take what we can get. File your request here: Adobe - Feature Request/Bug Report Form
PS: Just be sure that you tell them that you want this as an OPTION, not a default function. Thank you

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I am working in PAL

As far as I know, loop points (and chapter markers) can only be placed at I-frames, which is why it moves 10-15 frames at a time. If you need to jump to a specific frame, you'll need to make sure that there's an I-frame at that frame. If you're using FCP, you can place either a chapter or compression marker and then re-export your footage. You'll need to re-encode the footage if you're not letting DVDSP do it.

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the guide i have says looping isn't possible if i add drop zones or text, but i have done neither within dvdsp3.
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ok i think i know what happened
i was using moving video as an asset for my buttons
once i changed that i could set a loop.
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Linking to a loop point

I'm working on a personal project and I'm making a three page menu. I have a main, chapters, and bonus features. In the menu I have a loop point set up and it works fine. I was wondering if there was a way to link to the loop point, because when I link one menu to the main menu it goes back to the main menu, and it would be nice to have it link to the loop point on that menu. Hope someone can tell me how or link me to the answer.
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Is this bluray? What version of Encore?
Some users have created a second menu - copy of the first minus the lead in motion - so that it looks like what you get with the looping point.

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I know this question is on here alot and I've already read some different things.
I have a project where the DVD menu has and intro and at about 16 secs. the buttons fade in. I have figured out how to make the button delay by setting the loop point. The problem is now my client wants the whole intro of the DVD menu to loop and have the buttons fade in at 16 secs. Is there anyway to keep the video looping back to the start and have the buttons still come in at 16 secs? i appreciate the help in advance.
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So visually, the menu starts, at 16 seconds the buttons appear and they stay on screen whilst the menu appears to loop from the beginning?
What I would do is make a whole bunch of clips into a single clip using FCP and placing them consecutively on the timeline, then export that to use as the menu background. Visually, this will appear to start over and over, but in actual fact it is playing through just once. Make it five minutes long, if you want so that no-one will rightly sit through it all.
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First of all, I'm running DVD Studio Pro 4.2.1 on OS X 10.4.11
I'm trying to finish a project where when a video ends, it jumps back to the menu directly to the next button in order. This menu also has a loop point set in order to skip an opening animation. So I wrote the following script to accomplish this:
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When I simulate the disc, everything works fine. However, a burned disc fails to return to the loop point. It will start on the next button when the highlights appear at the loop point, but the menu will begin from the beginning animation, not at the loop point.
Is there some conflict between the GPRM based button command and the start at loop point command? I did perform a test with the GPRM based button commands left out and the start at loop point function worked perfectly.
Edit: The "GPRM 0" at the end of the script shouldn't be a link but in brackets instead... the forum changed it to a link by default.
Message was edited by: brazzamHD

Given lines 1, 2 and 3, it is very unlikely that GPRM0 will ever be zero...
What your lines are saying, roughly, is:
"find the value of the last button that was pressed on a menu, and reduce it to a simple integer we can work with. Add '1' to the button number and then jump to the loop point on the menu IF the value in GPRM0 is '1'"
The problem is that it will never be '1' because of line 3. The lowest value it could be is '2' when you keep that line in there.
Also, you don't specify which GPRM you are evaluating in either version of line 4 - I assume GPRM0, as that is the one you are working with in lines 1, 2 and 3.
If you want to return to the loop point of a menu depending on the button the user previously selected being the first button then the code is this:
mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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However, you might want to simply start at the loop point of the menu but make sure that the user is on the same button they were on previoulsy, in which case the code would be:
mov GPRM0, SPRM8
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If you want to go to the next logical button after the one the user was on previoulsy, then you would need to add a '1' to it. The code looks like this:
mov GPRM0, SPRM8
div GPRM0, 1024
add GPRM0, 1
Jump MenuName (Loop) \[GPRM0\]
Note that the bracket shapes are important... a GPRM based button jump means that you will go to a button which has a value the same as that in the specified GPRM. The square brackets signify it is this kind of move, and not a simple evaluation of true or false.

Error message at loop point of main menu...

Anyone ever get this message when building a DVD?
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I keep getting this damn messages with Every adobe application. I was having tons of issues with encore 1.0 so I upgraded and bought 2.0. Now I'm having that error message.
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Encore CS4 Loop Point goes back to beginning

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Thank you for your time reading this. I've searched the forum and didn't see a resolution for this type of issue. Please accept my apology if it is noted somewhere and I didn't find it.
I created a Motion Menu in After Effects CS3 that is 00;05;07;00
I then saved the layers as a psd files (I didn't create buttons within AE)
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Turned off all of the layers in Encore except for the buttons that I created
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Jeff

Jeff,
Thanks for explaining.
I'm now using CS5 and I'd heard the two menu thing wasn't necessary any more so:
A week or so ago, I was trying to figure out the same thing. I posted this question here http://forums.adobe.com/thread/852185?tstart=30.
Unfortunately, there were no answers, and by then I had found in the Encore Help under Loop point (as you did) this group of instructions at the bottom
"Set menu loop back
You can set a loop point in a motion menu to a point from which you want the motion menu to loop, rather than the beginning. This is useful when the starting point and ending point of the motion menu are separated by a long interval.
Select the menu from the Menu panel.
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Select Specify Link from the End Action Options menu.
Select the target from the list, and then select Set To Loop Point, and click OK"
However, I can't get this to work similar to you problem. That is, if I select the "Play all, Scenes " menu as the target, since it has a motion menu, I can select "Set to loop point", since it's not greyed out.
However, if I select the next menu "Scenes" with no motion menu, the "set to loop point" is greyed out. If I select the Play all etc with the motion menu, then the loop point doesn't work ie it still loops back to the beginning of the motion menu.
I'm not sure what the work "taget" means from the last sentence in the suggestions.
I was hoping an Adobe person would chime in, but so far no luck.
I'm doing this in a SD project and not BluRay.
Sorry to ramble.
John

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In creating my DVD menu I imported a video and audio file into my project and then linked them up to the main menu under Properties>Motion. At first I did not set a loop point and only the audio played when previewed; the background was black (perhaps the first frame of the video). When I set a loop point at 1 second the audio again played fine but the video was frozen at the loop point frame.
There must be something I'm missing...I thought I followed the tutorial article.
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No, I haven't. I'm remembering that option in the preview window and will try it. Thanks!

Loop Point in the intro video

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When a viewer inserts a DVD into a DVD player I want this to happen:
1) The introduction video must play (it's about 20 seconds long).
2) This intro video must lead the viewer to the main menu.
3) During the intro video, the viewer must not be able to skip the intro video (like in the normal DVDs, where you have to wait for FBI warnings to first finish displaying before you can gain control of the remote again).
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JBowden
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Regarding your last point "set the timeline's user operations to prohibit anything" - I did the following:
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2) Under the properties tab, at the operations area, I clicked on the "set" button & chose "none" under the permitted user operation dialogue box.
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I'm hoping somebody can help me...
I've created a menu that has a video clip background, and set a loop point about 4 seconds in (after everything flies in, and the image remains static).
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It's a great suggestion, Hal. Thanks. But are you really saying that that skip is unavoidable? What's the point in being able to "loop" something, if the loop can't appear seamless?
I'm not doubting that you know what you're talking about, I'm just surprised if such a fundemental problem hasn't been resolved by the manufacturers. Or am I really that much more pedantic than everyone else out there? (From what I've seen on this forum, I'd find that hard to believe!)
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My Menus have a quick little animation to bring in the buttons. Then there is just a video playing for 30 seconds.
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