Setting Pitch Bend in 12 semi-tones or whatever

Does anybody knows how to set pitch bend using software instrument in Logic?
I use a Roland GTR Synth but I can`t find where to set pitch bend (in 12 semi-tones, for example).
Using Reason I have no problem ´cause I get very clear access to the little window display in every synth module I use but I don`t know where to see same parameters in Logic.
Thanks in advance.

As in reason, it depends on the instrument you're using. Its just that reason is generally a bit more consistent in how it organises modulation parameters on its instrument interfaces. For example, in the EXS24 you do it in the matrix editor bit (not sure if thats what its actually called but its the section which runs horizontally across the centre of the interface). You set the Source (Src) to Pitch Bend and the destination (Dest) to Pitch and use the slider to define (in cents) the range of the pitch you want the wheel to affect. On the ESM there is a disclosure triangle on the bottom left of the interface which allows you to set the bend ranges.

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"If I want to go from C2, and down an octave to C1. This time i set the bend range on my instrument to 12 semitones, up and down. in order to go down an octave, i have to set the Pitch Bend Control to - 63, and not - 12 semitones from the zero line."
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It only seems to go a minor 3rd, oddly.
https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/vst/neo_soul_keys/what_you_get.html
Here's a link to the synth page. I've been back and forth with their support team as well. They originally thought I wanted to do a bend event after the fact like in Logic. See below for our exchange.
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I'm actually looking to alter the range prior to recording so that the patch can be properly used with a new type of polyphonic keyboard we recently acquired at our school called a Seaboard.
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Neil,
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> You would normally do this in your daw in their midi editor if you need to adjust what was recorded. If you have any further questions, please let me know.
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> Thank you
> Jeff Deno
> Steinberg Support
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> I am looking to be able to edit the pitch bend to /- 12, however. Is there a way to do this in the keyboard?
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> Thanks!
> Neil

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