Setting up camera profiles

I may be confused, but I seem to remember when I was using LR3 Beta, I had a profile set up for my particular camera. Now I am using the release version and I can't seem to find how to set up a particular model or brand in the camera profile.

Lightroom camera profiles don't display model or brand information in their name. That being said, Lightroom will only allow you to select camera profiles designed for a specific model and brand. These profiles have names similar to those used by the camera vendor to describe their looks. For example, Canon users have profiles for Camera Faithful, Camera Neutral, Camera Portrait, Camera Landscape and Camera Standard in addition to Adobe Standard. Nikon users have slightly profiles, some of which include the D2X designation)

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How to set default camera profile?

Hi,
I'm using LR 2.2, and have the camera profiles (love 'em :)
I'd like to arrange that one of these become the default for new imports. How should I do that?
TIA
Simon

There are two ways. One is to take an image taken with the camera you are using. Then you hit reset and the only thing you do is to change the profile to the setting you'd like. Then you hold alt/option and the reset button will change into "set default.." just hit that and now all new imports from that camera will use the profile as default. Secondly, what you can do is generate presets that apply only the profile and simply apply them during import.

New camera profile not "appearing" in ACR, but does in Lightroom

I recently created a camera profile for a Nikon D200, using an X-Rite Colorchecker chart photo and the Chart feature in the DNG Editor. I exported the camera profile. When I go to the Calibration tab in ACR 5.5, the new profile does not appear in the drop down list with the other camera profiles. However, when I go to the Develop module in Lightroom 2.5, the new profile does appear in the drop down list there.
I am running Windows 7. Snooping around my root drive I find that if I look within the Users\User Name\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles directory (referenced in the Fraser and Schewe CS4 Camera Raw book as the Vista location for the profiles) I can find no camera profiles and when I place the new profile there it still does not appear in ACR. When I look in ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D200 directory I can see the regular set of camera profiles for the camera, as well as the one I created, but as I previously stated, the newly created profile does not appear in the ACR list.
A side note - I did some experimentation with camera profile names. I added "XX" to the end of the Nikon Vivid profile name (not the extension), and then that profile no longer appears in the ACR list of profiles. I removed the extra letters and then the profile reappears in the ACR list of profiles. Seemed odd behavior to me. I also noticed that the profile I created with DNG Editor is noticeably smaller than the others provided by Adobe (28K compared to 110k).
Hope someone has a suggestion for me.

Your reminder about both Photoshop (main) and Bridge needing to be shut down for changes to take effect reminded me that I had Bridge set to "auto-start at log-in". So I checked and it was still running (shown with the other hidden icons). When I "shut it down" from the UI I had thought it was fully terminated. So I completely shut Bridge down, restarted, and the new profile now appears.
Thanks for the reminder/pointer in the right direction.

Camera Profile Sony A700

Any news on a camera profile for A700? The question was asked a year ago so thought I'd enquire.
Also can I just check that in the camera calibration panel of Lightroom 3 I'm only supposed to be seeing ACR 4.4, ACR 4.2 and Adobe Standard?
Thanks anyone who replies

Yes, this is the correct set of camera profiles that you should be seeing in the Profile popup menu, for the A700. These profiles are already specific to the A700.

Camera Profiles and Defaults

I have been using CS5 and am about to install CS6. For my two cameras, I set up camera profiles and defaults by ISO in Camera Raw. The defaults include initial noise reduction settings for each ISO. Will these profiles and defaults transfer to CS6? If so, can I assume the noise reduction settings will be comparable? Thanks.

IIRC, all of those settings did transfer when I installed Photoshop CS6. But I installed CS6 first and then removed CS5. This broke the external editor link in Lightroom, forcing me to install Lightroom 4 again to reestablish the link.
It's likely that you will have to redo your default settings anyway using the PV 2012 adjustments because they are quite different in some respects. Noise reduction is improved in the new version, so I think you will probably want to reevaluate your default settings.

Light Room 5 camera profile

I'm trying to decide whether to use color checker which uses dng file set as camera profile or use data color checker which sets up as a preset. Can any one tell me which is better or the major deference between the two

Hi there,
               In case if you have downloaded trial of lightroom 5 and then subscribed to Adobe photoshop Photography Offer or Adobe Full Creative Cloud, you will be asked for serial number.
               Here, you need to uninstall the trial and login to creative.adobe.com to download the Adobe Lightroom fdfd,, and you will not be asked for serial number.
               Still, if you asked for serial number after the uninstallation of trial and download from creative.adobe.com, try
               Close all the cloud applications, launch / open lightroom.
               After you launch the product please click on " License the software" and then enter your adobe ID and password and it will work fine
               Other possible reason: If you have just downloaded the trial and not purchased the product, after the 30 days trial ends you will be asked for serial number, you will have to purchase the product in this case.
               Lastly, if all the above steps do not work, please contact adobe customer service and they will help you better.

Setting Camera Profile question

Canon 40D in Lightroom 2.3
While reading the FAQ I noted the statement for the Canon settings:
In general, there are 5 CM profiles per Canon DSLR, one for each of the default Canon Picture Styles. These five Picture Styles are called Standard, Portrait, Landscape, Neutral, and Faithful. The CM profiles will match the Canon Picture Styles with all Canon sliders (i.e., Contrast, Color Balance, and Saturation) set to their default values of 0.
What if the Standard style does NOT have the default setting to value of 0?
If the styles should be at value 0 for Lightroom to apply the profile then the words should say exactly that.
My other query is if including several ISO settings when preparing the specific camera profile.
If the image that is open while preparing the profile and settings to be saved as a camera profile has an ISO 200 then when are other ISO ratings included in the camera profile?
Is the camera profile updated by opening another image with an ISO 400 entering any specific adjustment settings then do the update the camera profile? This routine to be repeated for any other IS0 rating.
The detail of adding these ISO ratings to the camera profile are not specificied at the site I visited
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr_camera/camera-defaults.htm
nor do I see it in the FAQ
Appreciate any clarification.
Rose

>What if the Standard style does NOT have the default setting to value of 0?
I guess you are referring to the sliders in Lightroom. The text in that FAQ refers to the settings in your camera that override the picture styles. The sliders in Lightroom need to be at their default settings. Those are NOT zero for a lot of the sliders. The default is 5 for blacks, 25 for contrast, 50 for brightness and the tone curve at medium contrast. Everyting else should be at zero. Using these default settings and a camera-matching profile will yield you a rendering that mimics the in-camera jpeg with the same picture style, provided you do not modify the settings in your camera.
>If the image that is open while preparing the profile and settings to be saved as a camera profile has an ISO 200 then when are other ISO ratings included in the camera profile?
The profiles are ISO independent. The color rendering is independent of the ISO of your camera so there is no need for separate camera profiles at different ISOs. To generate a camera profile, you only need to shoot a single image (actually usually two, one in daylight and one in tungsten light) preferably at the lowest ISO so that noise does not screw up the calibration. There are other things automatically taken care of in Lightroom depending on ISO such as baseline noise reduction.
>The detail of adding these ISO ratings to the camera profile are not specificied at the site I visited http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr_camera/camera-defaults.htm
nor do I see it in the FAQ
This page talks about camera defaults. This is something completely different from the camera profile. Camera defaults are simply default Develop settings dependent on which camera your RAW file came off off. These default settings can include the application of a camera matching profile and the defaults can be ISO dependent.

Set Camera Profile with a Preset?

I am shooting tethered with a Nikon D700 and I want to apply a camera profile (Nikon D700 Landscape) to each image as it is captured. While tethered, I know how to assign a Preset, what I don't know is how to assign a camera profile to a preset? Thoughts?

You can also fire one shot, then set the profile, then choose 'Same as Previous' from the preset list.

Setting camera profile as default

Is it possibile in LR 2.2 to set as default the camera calibration profile
"Camera Standard" (the Canon's picture style) instead of "Adobe Standard" ?
thx
Sandro

To set a profile as default, you should take an image that is completely standard developed (hit reset for example), then select the profile you want to set as the default for that camera, then hit the alt (or option) on mac key and the Reset button will change into "Set Default...". Click it and the camera profile will now be the default for new images or for images that you hit reset on.

What does "Camera Profile" mean in the Camera Calibration tab in PSE 12?

I recently made the switch to edit exclusively in Photoshop Elements 12. I need help understanding what I need to select for the "Camera Profile" drop down in the Camera Calibration tab. I shoot with a Canon Mark II. Will the camera profile selection affect my prints at all? First, what does the camera profile mean? I go back and forth between Adobe Standard and Camera Standard. Sometimes I get truer color with Camera Standard than the Adobe Standard for my outside photos. I'm so confused as to which one I should be editing with. I just want to be sure this is not going to affect my prints because I just recently ordered a print from Millers and it was saturated, shadowing and skin had orange tone. I have never had a problem with my calibration and have always ordered from Millers with no problem. This is the first print I ordered after editing exclusively with PSE 12 so I'm wondering if I have setting wrong. Thanks so much!

Will the camera profile selection affect my prints at all?
It will affect prints to the same extent that it affects the monitor display, but no more than that. The differences that you see in color rendering when switching between profiles will be embodied in the jpg that you eventually make for sending to the print lab, but will not in itself cause the discrepancies you describe.

DNG camera profile - which to trust, Adobe's or X-Rite's?

I found that dual-illuminant DNG camera profiles created with X-Rite's ColorChecker application and Adobe's DNG Profile Editor give different visual results (the profiles were produced using the same set of 6500K/2850K illuminated photos). I'm now in trouble which profile(s) to trust, I assume Adobe's is correct...
Andreas

b2martin_a wrote:
I like the DNG Profile Editor better.
Me too. The purpose of the twisting is for more pleasing color. Cool dark greens, but warmer light greens; dark midnight blues, but warmer cyany light blues, deep dark reds, but warmer light reds...
Note: this exagerates what often happens in real life: shadows are cool, sunlit colors are warmer...
The linear profiles may be more accurate, but the twisted profiles may look better.
Obviously this is subjective, and may depend on the shot and the purpose for it...
My favorite profile is a customized version of Adobe Standard created with DNG Profile Editor - a little dimmer in the upper-midtones/lower-highlights, a little less cyany blues, a little cooler greens, and slightly warmer (less magenta-y) reds.
Rob

What is Adobe Standard and the other camera profiles?

OK, so i'm using my Canon 5d mark II, shooting RAW in the Neutral picture style. When I load the photo into Lightroom, at the bottom under Camera Calibration the program shows that by default it has loaded the photograph using the Adobe Standard camera profile. My question is: Is Lightroom taking the end result of the RAW data being shot with the Neutral picture style and loading it into Lightroom where it translates the photograph (RAW + Neutral picture style) using Adobe Standard? Or is Lightroom taking the photograph (RAW + Neutral picture style) and overriding the Neutral picture style setting in my camera and replacing it with another picture style it calls Adobe Standard?
Another and potentially easier to understand way of asking the question would be if I shot two photographs in RAW, one with the Neutral picture style set in my camera and one with the Landscape setting, and then loaded them into Lightroom using Adobe Standard camera profile, would the two photographs look any different?
Sorry, I am new to digital photography and all adobe programs, and would greatly appreciate the help of a veteran.

The photos would look exactly the same. The picture style that your camera is set on makes no difference to the raw image. That picture style is carried in your raw file as just a tag that tells Canon's raw converter how to interpret the data. Adobe doesn't use that information.
It's up to you to choose the profile that meets your artistic desires.
Hal

How does Adobe make their camera profiles for ACR and Lightroom?

I'm not interested in the proprietary algorithms , but I am curious as to the photographic mechanics and hardware tools used by Adobe to make the various camera profiles as they differ markedly from the ones I make using the DNG Profile Editor.
My methodology is to set an X-Rite 24 patch Color Checker target, light it evenly with electromic flash (with 0.1 stops from center to corners as mesured with a Sekonic L-758r Meter) and make a series of exposures bracketed in third of a stop increments around the meter reading in case the camera sensitivity differs from the meter's.
I then process the raw files and convert them to the DNG format, select the best exposure and run it through the DNG Profile editor. My results differ from Adobe's generic profiles for that camera enough that that I don't thin kthe difference can be credited to the difference between a generic profile a specific camera.
How do the different tools work in the DNG converter? Starting with the Options for "Base Tone Curve"? Is there a document a moderately color geeky person can understand that explains this?
I thin kthe DNG Profile editor is a great and under usedtool. I wish more people knew about it.
Thank you for your time and consideration.

Someone who only eats sausage may not want to know how it's made. Someone who creates things with food, a chef, a cook, or otherwise is thinking about a career in the food industry, might have a interest in such things. Someone who is thinking of making sausage will want to know all the details. Someone who is concerned with the public safety might want to know how sasauge is made.
It would be nice for a sausage maker to give some hints about the process as compared to what each of us can do with the DNG Profile Editor and to the original poster's question, why are our profiles different from Adobe's?
It is my experience that when I create a profile with the DNG Profile Editor, and then compute the color error for each of the 24 color patches of a CC24, using a program like Imatest, some colors are quite a bit off and some are very close, and the colors that are off, are not the same ones that are off when I compute the color error using one of the Adobe Standard or Camera Standard profiles.
Is Adobe using more detailed and sophisticated color targets with hundreds of different colors, or if not, do the tools provide more feedback and allow more manual manipulation of the profile and so the differences are due to their judgement about which colors to make "right" and which ones to let have more error associated with them, that can be manipulated by hand instead of merely letting the DNG Profile Editor apparently distribute the error amongst the various colors with some sort of even-handed calculation.
For example it is easy to imagine that someone tweaking a profile by hand with a live readout of the error of each of the colors plus an overall composite error, might put more emphasis on skin tones being right if they have a background in people photography, or more emphasis on bright colors being right if their experience is in textiles and the current trend in the US is bright colors--and a different emphasis when the trend is muted colors so there is cultrual bias and life-experience coloring a "standard" profile.
In other words, how much of the difference between Adobe and our profiles are due to Adobe having different or better science, and how much of it is due to Adobe have different or better "artists" who decide what colors to make correct compared to others.

Cannot install camera profiles in Raw 5.2

After re-downloading Adobe Raw 5.2 and running the CameraProfiles.exe program and restarting my system I still cannot find any camera profiles under Camera Calibration other than the standard ones in either Lightroom or Camera Raw. I click the dropdown menu in Raw and click Load Settings, but cannot find any camera specific settings. I am running Photoshop CS4 and want to set it up for my new Canon 5D Mark II. Any suggestions?

[email protected] wrote:
> After re-downloading Adobe Raw 5.2 and running the CameraProfiles.exe program and restarting my system I still cannot find any camera profiles under Camera Calibration other than the standard ones in either Lightroom or Camera Raw. I click the dropdown menu in Raw and click Load Settings, but cannot find any camera specific settings. I am running Photoshop CS4 and want to set it up for my new Canon 5D Mark II. Any suggestions?
You are aware that the camera profiles do not have a name the reflect
what camera they are for? The software populates the list with names
like "camera faithful" and "camera landscape". These are selected to fit
what ever camera took the picture and they use the same name for all
camera models. So if names like above are on the list, then they are the
correct ones for the camera you used. It is confusing that they are not
labeled with the camera model.
John Passaneau

Camera Profile in Lightroom (X20)

Hi, I'm just beginning with a fujifilm X20 camera and .raf files.
I'm trying Lightroom 5.0 and still not sure if I should use Photoshop instead, here is why :
I tryied to found my camera profile, and it's not in lightroom, found X100 not X20.
I tried by the adobe lens profile downloader, I found 5 profiles for the X10, none for the X10.
Googling about that, I found out that the X20 is supported by Camera Raw, but I can't see how I could get that without Photoshop.
So my question is : what should I do :
- don't care about lens correction ?
- do care and chose one of the five available X10 profiles (but how to chose.. between them)
- switch to Photoshop + Camera Raw wich is supposed to support the X20
Thanks for any help

You may be confusing two concepts.
RAW file support for you camera means that LR will open the RAW file. LR has the Adobe ACR (Adobe Camera Raw) system built in and you don't see it. Photoshop uses the same ACR system, but you do see it as a separate function.
There are two ways you can see if your camera is supported by Lightroom or ACR. One is to find the list of cameras. The other is to see if it works.
The second concept is lens profiles. For fixed lens cameras like yours, the lens corrections are built into the data in the RAW file the camera makes. Unless you have a DSLR with multiple lenses, you can leave the "Lens Corrections" disabled or set to "Default".

Setting up camera profiles

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