Setting up Classic: 1st time mac user -- spent hours going thru threads
Hi Everyone,
After a lifetime of receiving & resisting PC-related brainwashing, I have finally found the means to purchase my first Apple computer (Yeah!). It's a Powerbook G4 running Tiger version .9 -- it only came with 3 Install Discs for Panther, however (#1 and #2 say 'v10.3.2', disc #3 only says 'v10.3'). Which install discs I have seems to be a central issue in ways I don't really understand yet; so there's that info for you.
I was thinking that I might be able to install a Classic system folder from disc #2 (I've checked Sys Pref & don't seem to have one anywhere), but I can't find OS 9 as an option when I put in that disc (or any of them) and explore. I've been wary about restarting the computer with any install discs in, because I really don't know what I'm doing yet. Is it safe for me to do that w/o jeopardizing my current OS (remember, don't have Tiger discs) or jeopardizing my HD?
In addition, I looked under 'About this Mac' >> 'More Info >>...>> and found that my hard drive does NOT have the OS 9 drivers installed. How does this affect what options I may have?
I have an old external hard drive that I WOULD be willing to reformat and mess around with. Is it an option for me to install & run OS 9 off of it via Classic Mode in Tiger? It's connected via USB... Could I install it onto there easily from Tiger without jeopardizing my current setup?
Thanks for bearing with me on this. I'm trying to think through all info you might need to know from me about my situation, while simultaneously relearning the basics (such as holding down CTRL when clicking acts as a right-click on my laptop!) It's a bit much... I've heard such great things about Macs over the years, so this is your chance to help me have a good first experience!
Zapple9
Powerbook G4 1.67 Mac OS X (10.4.9)
PBG4 1.67, 2GB Mac OS X (10.4.9)
PBG4 1.67, 2GB Mac OS X (10.4.9)
PBG4 1.67, 2GB Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Hi, Zapple, and welcome to Apple Discussions. Your Powerbook can't start up in OS 9. That means you don't have the option of using a retail OS 9 installer CD, because such an installer only runs in OS 9, not in OS X. The CDs or DVD that were originally shipped with your Powerbook included an installer for a version of OS 9 that is serviceable as Classic, but not bootable. If you have or can get those original discs (check with the seller first, because you should have received them with the PB), that would be the best way for you to install Classic. If you can't get them from the seller, duplicates of the original discs may still be available from Apple Customer Relations, by telephone only, for a small fee: call AppleCare at 1-800-275-2273 for information about availability and how to order. Have your Powerbook's serial number handy when you call, and be aware that you may be asked to furnish proof that you purchased the computer legitimately.
The Panther install discs you have are of no use to you, because your computer was originally shipped with either OS X 10.3.7 or 10.4, and no Mac model can run an OS version earlier than the one that was shipped with it. They probably won't even start your PB up. Sooner or later it will be imperative for you to have a Tiger installer DVD, unless you buy Leopard and install it before you experience any problem that requires you to use an installer disc for troubleshooting or repairs. But Leopard won't be out until next Fall, so that's not likely. A retail Tiger installer won't contain a Classic installer, but you should buy one anyway: if you don't have one, you're sure to need it.
The only other Classic installation option I know of for you, besides obtaining the original PB G4 discs or duplicates of them, is to copy an OS 9.2.2 System Folder that provides Classic operation on another Mac. Bear in mind that someone else's copy of OS 9 is licensed for use on only one computer, so there might be legal issues in copying it to a second computer. But it's also arguable, perhaps, that by purchasing your computer, you also purchased the right to use the software that was originally supplied with it, even if the discs weren't delivered to you by reason of of the seller's negligence, ignorance or dishonesty. Note that I'm no lawyer, and you'll have to be the judge of what's comfortable for you.
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selectedCategory = Integer.parseInt(vce.getNewValue().toString());
category = CategoryService.retrieveCategoryById(selectedCategory); // gets the category Object
} catch (Exception e) {
logger.error("Error occured: {}",e.toString());
FacesContext context = FacesContext.getCurrentInstance();
context.addMessage("ERROR", new FacesMessage(e.toString()));
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return selectedCategories;
public void setSelectedCategories(List<SelectItem> selectedCategories) {
this.selectedCategories = selectedCategories;
public List<SelectItem> getSelectedItems() {
return selectedCategories;
public void setSelectedItems(List<SelectItem> selectedItems) {
this.selectedItems = selectedItems;
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This comment applies to malicious software ("malware") that's installed unwittingly by the victim of a network attack. It does not apply to software, such as keystroke loggers, that may be installed deliberately by an attacker who has hands-on access to the victim's computer. That threat is in a different category, and there's no easy way to defend against it. If you have reason to suspect that you're the target of such an attack, you need expert help.
All versions of OS X since 10.6.7 have been able to detect known Mac malware in downloaded files. The recognition database is automatically updated once a day; however, you shouldn't rely on it, because the attackers are always at least a day ahead of the defenders. In most cases, there’s no benefit from any other automated protection against malware.
Starting with OS X 10.7.5, there is another layer of built-in malware protection, designated "Gatekeeper" by Apple. By default, applications that are downloaded from the network will only run if they're digitally signed by a developer with a certificate issued by Apple. Applications certified in this way haven't actually been tested by Apple (unless they come from the Mac App Store), but you can be sure that they haven't been modified by anyone other than the developer, and his identity is known, so he could be held responsible if he knowingly released malware. For most practical purposes, applications recognized by Gatekeeper as signed can be considered safe. Note, however, that there are some caveats concerning Gatekeeper:
It doesn't apply to software that comes packaged as an installer. Treat all third-party installers with caution.
It can be disabled or overridden by the user.
It can be bypassed by some third-party networking software, such as BitTorrent clients and Java applets (see below.)
It only applies to applications downloaded from the network. Software installed from a CD or other media is not checked.
For more information about Gatekeeper, see this Apple Support article.
Notwithstanding the above, the most effective defense against malware attacks is your own intelligence. All known malware on the Internet that affects a fully-updated installation of OS X 10.6 or later takes the form of so-called "trojan horses," which can only have an effect if the victim is duped into running them. If you're smarter than the malware attacker thinks you are, you won't be duped. That means, primarily, that you never install software from an untrustworthy source. How do you know a source is untrustworthy?
Any website that prompts you to install a “codec,” “plug-in,” or “certificate” that comes from that same site, or an unknown one, is untrustworthy.
A web operator who tells you that you have a “virus,” or that anything else is wrong with your computer, or that you have won a prize in a contest you never entered, is trying to commit a crime with you as the victim. [Some reputable websites did legitimately warn users who were infected with the "DNSChanger" malware. That exception to this rule no longer applies.]
“Cracked” copies of commercial software downloaded from a bittorrent are likely to be infected.
Software with a corporate brand, such as Adobe Flash Player, must be downloaded directly from the developer’s website. No intermediary is acceptable.
Java on the network (not to be confused with JavaScript, to which it's not related) is always a potential weak spot in the security of any operating system. If a Java web plugin is not installed, don't install it unless you really need it. If it is installed, you should disable it (not JavaScript) in your web browsers. Few websites have Java content nowadays, so you won’t be missing much. This setting is mandatory in OS X 10.5.8 or earlier, because Java in those obsolete versions has known security flaws that make it unsafe to use on the Internet. The flaws will never be fixed. Regardless of version, experience has shown that Java can never be fully trusted, even if no vulnerabilities are publicly known at the moment.
Follow these guidelines, and you’ll be as safe from malware as you can reasonably be.
Never install any commercial "anti-virus" products for the Mac, as they all do more harm than good. If you need to be able to detect Windows malware in your files, use the free software ClamXav — nothing else. -
Hi there Macbook world:
I've been a Windows kid for most of my life, and my familiarity with Macs has been virtually nil. Until now, that is, when my parents and I were looking into laptops for college and we decided to get a Macbook rather than dealing with Vista for four years. So I've got three weeks to get acclimated -- I haven't managed to screw anything major up yet since it just came out of the box today, but I do have a few questions:
1. Is there a shortcut to maximize windows so they fill up the entire screen? The green plus in the top left corner resizes the window, but doesn't maximize it.
2. For some reason, certain applications on my dock won't open -- normally the icon bounces a few times while the application loads, the taskbar on top changes to match the application, and then the application window comes up. But for a few applications (specifically, iChat and Preview), the taskbar changes up top, but nothing else happens. Is this an application-related issue (I opened iChat, but declined to do the preliminary registration -- maybe I screwed something up there?), or is this just a Mac thing?
3. Also, if anybody here happens to be familiar with the FirstClass email client, I'd like to know if there's a way to set up Mail to use my school account.
4. Lastly, is there a better way for me to find out any of this information?
Thanksdarkapothem2000 wrote:
1. Is there a shortcut to maximize windows so they fill up the entire screen? The green plus in the top left corner resizes the window, but doesn't maximize it.
No, this is how Apple has designed it.
2. For some reason, certain applications on my dock won't open -- normally the icon bounces a few times while the application loads, the taskbar on top changes to match the application, and then the application window comes up. But for a few applications (specifically, iChat and Preview), the taskbar changes up top, but nothing else happens. Is this an application-related issue (I opened iChat, but declined to do the preliminary registration -- maybe I screwed something up there?), or is this just a Mac thing?
For Preview, it will not open a window until you open a file (either by double clicking the file (.pdf file or image) of open from the file/open dialogue.
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