Setting up Drop Box Permissions

I am trying to setup a drop box, on the server, for students to put work in so the teacher can read it. I have done this for years with 10.4 server but I do not seem to be able to set it up so students can put work in the drop box now that I have upgraded to Leopard Server. I set the folder up in the group folder and give it write-only permission for the group. When the student puts the document in they get the message about not being able to see the work. They then they also get a series of other messages that read, "You may need to enter the name & password for an administrator on this computer to change the item named __.doc,"I click continue & get, "The item ___.doc contains one or more items you do not have permission to read. Do you want to copy the items you are allowed to read?" & finally, "The operation cannot be completed because you do not have sufficient privileges for some of the items."
So, how do I set up a drop box so that users who authenticate to the server are able to put items in the drop box. I was able to do this in Tiger.
I assume I am missing or forgetting some step. Help!
Message was edited by: untermike

Create the folder in Public and Get Info on it.
You should have Read/write.
Set Staff to Write only
Set everyone to Write Only.

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Thanks for your help. It's all very confusing isn't it. Maybe permissions when file sharing are a bit more confusing in Leopard than they were in TIger. Maybe the problems I've encountered are due to a bug with Leopard? Who knows.
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I assume I am missing or forgetting some step. Help!

I suggest posting to the OS X server forum.

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Save the document from his account to an external drive or thumb drive.
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